[Gtk-sharp-list] GTK# App with multiple windows, where does Application.Init() and Application.Run() go?

Anset Anset@anset.org
Mon, 28 Mar 2005 12:19:40 +0200


Heh,

That makes two of us... :)

But I think he is talking about http://boo.codehaus.org/

I have not used it, so I will not comment.

Wkr,

Anset

Timothy Parez wrote:
> Huh ?
> You kinda lost me now.
> 
> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> Van: Rafael Teixeira [mailto:monoman@gmail.com] 
> Verzonden: zondag 27 maart 2005 20:18
> Aan: Anset
> CC: Timothy Parez; gtk-sharp-list@lists.ximian.com
> Onderwerp: Re: [Gtk-sharp-list] GTK# App with multiple windows, where does
> Application.Init() and Application.Run() go?
> 
> Also, for those using Boo interactive shell, and maybe (untested) with
> the c# shell, you can build GTK UI interactively: You add a button
> with a line of code and see it be added to the running window, what is
> a nice way to really learn (and develop with) gtk#.
> 
> Just my two cents,
> 
> 
> On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 12:40:20 +0200, Anset <Anset@anset.org> wrote:
> 
>>Hi,
>>
>>At first, it takes some getting used too, but now I make my gui's faster
>>than I did with glade. Add to that that some functionality is not
>>exposed through the glade interface, and I come out ahead twice. :)
>>
>>Seriously, if you need a very simple front end for an app, then glade is
>>great. However if you want to have a nice gui, where you have full
>>controll, not using glade is easier.
>>
>>The way you have to bind your methods to the glade widgets is just to
>>cumbersome...
>>
>>I guess it all depends on what you are doing. :)
>>
>>The reason I let go of glade was that I was just learning to use Gtk
>>(about 8 month ago now) and I was seeing some realy strange exceptions
>>in Gtk/Gdk... The only way to debug my application (in absence of a
>>usable mono debugger) was to rewrite everything without using
>>glade(lib). And the moment that was done, those crashes mysteriously
>>dissapeared...
>>
>>I haven't used glade since. :)
>>
>>But I have to admit that I am a controll freak when it comes to my
>>programming. I hate visual designers... :)
>>
>>As far as I know, glade is the only Gtk+ designer at the moment. The
>>Monodevelop people say that they will develop a new designer because
>>glade does not work for them (I don;t have details) but they have not
>>released anything yet...
>>
>>I thought that the Sharpdevelop ide had a desinger, but I think it only
>>wotks with windows.forms, not Gtk.
>>
>>But as I have said, I don;t use them so my knowledge may be limited.
>>
>>Wkr,
>>
>>Anset.
>>
>>Timothy Parez wrote:
>>
>>>I am wondering though,
>>>If you don't use glade, how do you visualize what you're doing, doesn't
> 
> it
> 
>>>take ages to create an GUI that looks exactly like you want it ?
>>>
>>>Will there be (is there) a GTK# designer that writes C# code without
> 
> using
> 
>>>Glade?
>>>
>>>Thnx
>>>
>>>-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
>>>Van: gtk-sharp-list-admin@lists.ximian.com
>>>[mailto:gtk-sharp-list-admin@lists.ximian.com] Namens Anset
>>>Verzonden: zaterdag 26 maart 2005 19:02
>>>Aan: Bjoern Schiessle
>>>CC: gtk-sharp-list@lists.ximian.com
>>>Onderwerp: Re: [Gtk-sharp-list] GTK# App with multiple windows, where
> 
> does
> 
>>>Application.Init() and Application.Run() go?
>>>
>>>True,
>>>
>>>but as I wrote at the end, ditch glade. It's great for a quick app, but
>>>if you want to do anything fancy at all, it just won't work.
>>>
>>>Allso, I hate not being in controll of my own application. Glade just
>>>makes things complicated and it certainly does not help someone who is
>>>just starting out with gtk... Too many things are hidden, and since the
>>>doc for gtk is so sparse (I do not mean api info, I mean tut's en such)
>>>glade is not a "good thing"(tm)
>>>
>>>Of course, this is my opinion, and I do not expect anybody to agree with
>>>me. :)
>>>
>>>Anset
>>>
>>>Bjoern Schiessle wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Hi,
>>>>
>>>>On Sa, 2005-03-26 at 11:00 +0100, Anset wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>First of all, when you create a "MyWndow" class, make it enherit
>>>>>Gtk.Window. Makes your life easier:
>>>>>
>>>>>Class MyWindow : Gtk.Window
>>>>>{
>>>>>...
>>>>>}
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Why should i inherit the MyWindow class from Gtk.Window if i have the
>>>>whole window already in the glade file? If i do this, than i would have
>>>>two windows, the window represented by the "MyWindow : Gtk.Window" class
>>>>and the window i have pulled out of the glade file.
>>>>
>>>>If i don't use glade i would inherit MyWindow from Gtk.Window, but if i
>>>>use glade i would do it like this:
>>>>
>>>>class MainWindow {
>>>>
>>>>   public static void Main(string[] args) {
>>>>       Application.Init ();
>>>>       new MainWindow ();
>>>>       Application.Run ();
>>>>   }
>>>>
>>>>   public MainWindow () {
>>>>       Glade.XML gxml = new Glade.XML (null, "app.glade",
>>>>                                       "MainWindow", null);
>>>>       gxml.Autoconnect (this);
>>>>   }
>>>>   ...
>>>>}
>>>>
>>>>and the second window which i call somewhere from MainWindow with "new
>>>>SubWindow()":
>>>>
>>>>class SubWindow {
>>>>
>>>>   public SubWindow () {
>>>>       Glade.XML gxml = new Glade.XML (null, "app.glade",
>>>>                                       "SubWindow", null);
>>>>       gxml.Autoconnect (this);
>>>>   }
>>>>   ....
>>>>}
>>>>
>>>>Cheers,
>>>>Bjoern
>>>>
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