[Gtk-sharp-list] GTK# App with multiple windows, where does Application.Init() and Application.Run() go?
Bet's On!
Bet's On! <l33ts0n@gmail.com>
Mon, 28 Mar 2005 12:30:15 -0500
This is probably what he meant:
Using Boo (http://boo.codehaus.org)'s interactive shell, you can
programmatically "design" GTK# applications in real time and see them
updated on the fly--for those of you who don't like the way Glade's
looking at you and/or your girlfriend. You can instantly see the
result of modifying the "Clicked" event handler of a button by, well,
something like,
button.Clicked += { print "Hello, world!" }
Me? Glade keeps looking at me kinda cross-eyed. I'll wait for Stetic, thanks.
On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 22:59:32 +0200, Timothy Parez <timothyparez@linux.be> wrote:
> Huh ?
> You kinda lost me now.
>
> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> Van: Rafael Teixeira [mailto:monoman@gmail.com]
> Verzonden: zondag 27 maart 2005 20:18
> Aan: Anset
> CC: Timothy Parez; gtk-sharp-list@lists.ximian.com
> Onderwerp: Re: [Gtk-sharp-list] GTK# App with multiple windows, where does
> Application.Init() and Application.Run() go?
>
> Also, for those using Boo interactive shell, and maybe (untested) with
> the c# shell, you can build GTK UI interactively: You add a button
> with a line of code and see it be added to the running window, what is
> a nice way to really learn (and develop with) gtk#.
>
> Just my two cents,
>
> On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 12:40:20 +0200, Anset <Anset@anset.org> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > At first, it takes some getting used too, but now I make my gui's faster
> > than I did with glade. Add to that that some functionality is not
> > exposed through the glade interface, and I come out ahead twice. :)
> >
> > Seriously, if you need a very simple front end for an app, then glade is
> > great. However if you want to have a nice gui, where you have full
> > controll, not using glade is easier.
> >
> > The way you have to bind your methods to the glade widgets is just to
> > cumbersome...
> >
> > I guess it all depends on what you are doing. :)
> >
> > The reason I let go of glade was that I was just learning to use Gtk
> > (about 8 month ago now) and I was seeing some realy strange exceptions
> > in Gtk/Gdk... The only way to debug my application (in absence of a
> > usable mono debugger) was to rewrite everything without using
> > glade(lib). And the moment that was done, those crashes mysteriously
> > dissapeared...
> >
> > I haven't used glade since. :)
> >
> > But I have to admit that I am a controll freak when it comes to my
> > programming. I hate visual designers... :)
> >
> > As far as I know, glade is the only Gtk+ designer at the moment. The
> > Monodevelop people say that they will develop a new designer because
> > glade does not work for them (I don;t have details) but they have not
> > released anything yet...
> >
> > I thought that the Sharpdevelop ide had a desinger, but I think it only
> > wotks with windows.forms, not Gtk.
> >
> > But as I have said, I don;t use them so my knowledge may be limited.
> >
> > Wkr,
> >
> > Anset.
> >
> > Timothy Parez wrote:
> > > I am wondering though,
> > > If you don't use glade, how do you visualize what you're doing, doesn't
> it
> > > take ages to create an GUI that looks exactly like you want it ?
> > >
> > > Will there be (is there) a GTK# designer that writes C# code without
> using
> > > Glade?
> > >
> > > Thnx
> > >
> > > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> > > Van: gtk-sharp-list-admin@lists.ximian.com
> > > [mailto:gtk-sharp-list-admin@lists.ximian.com] Namens Anset
> > > Verzonden: zaterdag 26 maart 2005 19:02
> > > Aan: Bjoern Schiessle
> > > CC: gtk-sharp-list@lists.ximian.com
> > > Onderwerp: Re: [Gtk-sharp-list] GTK# App with multiple windows, where
> does
> > > Application.Init() and Application.Run() go?
> > >
> > > True,
> > >
> > > but as I wrote at the end, ditch glade. It's great for a quick app, but
> > > if you want to do anything fancy at all, it just won't work.
> > >
> > > Allso, I hate not being in controll of my own application. Glade just
> > > makes things complicated and it certainly does not help someone who is
> > > just starting out with gtk... Too many things are hidden, and since the
> > > doc for gtk is so sparse (I do not mean api info, I mean tut's en such)
> > > glade is not a "good thing"(tm)
> > >
> > > Of course, this is my opinion, and I do not expect anybody to agree with
> > > me. :)
> > >
> > > Anset
> > >
> > > Bjoern Schiessle wrote:
> > >
> > >>Hi,
> > >>
> > >>On Sa, 2005-03-26 at 11:00 +0100, Anset wrote:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>>First of all, when you create a "MyWndow" class, make it enherit
> > >>>Gtk.Window. Makes your life easier:
> > >>>
> > >>>Class MyWindow : Gtk.Window
> > >>>{
> > >>>...
> > >>>}
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>Why should i inherit the MyWindow class from Gtk.Window if i have the
> > >>whole window already in the glade file? If i do this, than i would have
> > >>two windows, the window represented by the "MyWindow : Gtk.Window" class
> > >>and the window i have pulled out of the glade file.
> > >>
> > >>If i don't use glade i would inherit MyWindow from Gtk.Window, but if i
> > >>use glade i would do it like this:
> > >>
> > >>class MainWindow {
> > >>
> > >> public static void Main(string[] args) {
> > >> Application.Init ();
> > >> new MainWindow ();
> > >> Application.Run ();
> > >> }
> > >>
> > >> public MainWindow () {
> > >> Glade.XML gxml = new Glade.XML (null, "app.glade",
> > >> "MainWindow", null);
> > >> gxml.Autoconnect (this);
> > >> }
> > >> ...
> > >>}
> > >>
> > >>and the second window which i call somewhere from MainWindow with "new
> > >>SubWindow()":
> > >>
> > >>class SubWindow {
> > >>
> > >> public SubWindow () {
> > >> Glade.XML gxml = new Glade.XML (null, "app.glade",
> > >> "SubWindow", null);
> > >> gxml.Autoconnect (this);
> > >> }
> > >> ....
> > >>}
> > >>
> > >>Cheers,
> > >>Bjoern
> > >>
> > >
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