[Gtk-sharp-list] GTK# App with multiple windows, where does Application.Init() and Application.Run() go?

Sun, 27 Mar 2005 22:59:32 +0200

Huh ?
You kinda lost me now.

-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
Van: Rafael Teixeira [mailto:monoman@gmail.com] 
Verzonden: zondag 27 maart 2005 20:18
Aan: Anset
CC: Timothy Parez; gtk-sharp-list@lists.ximian.com
Onderwerp: Re: [Gtk-sharp-list] GTK# App with multiple windows, where does
Application.Init() and Application.Run() go?

Also, for those using Boo interactive shell, and maybe (untested) with
the c# shell, you can build GTK UI interactively: You add a button
with a line of code and see it be added to the running window, what is
a nice way to really learn (and develop with) gtk#.

Just my two cents,

On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 12:40:20 +0200, Anset <Anset@anset.org> wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> At first, it takes some getting used too, but now I make my gui's faster
> than I did with glade. Add to that that some functionality is not
> exposed through the glade interface, and I come out ahead twice. :)
> 
> Seriously, if you need a very simple front end for an app, then glade is
> great. However if you want to have a nice gui, where you have full
> controll, not using glade is easier.
> 
> The way you have to bind your methods to the glade widgets is just to
> cumbersome...
> 
> I guess it all depends on what you are doing. :)
> 
> The reason I let go of glade was that I was just learning to use Gtk
> (about 8 month ago now) and I was seeing some realy strange exceptions
> in Gtk/Gdk... The only way to debug my application (in absence of a
> usable mono debugger) was to rewrite everything without using
> glade(lib). And the moment that was done, those crashes mysteriously
> dissapeared...
> 
> I haven't used glade since. :)
> 
> But I have to admit that I am a controll freak when it comes to my
> programming. I hate visual designers... :)
> 
> As far as I know, glade is the only Gtk+ designer at the moment. The
> Monodevelop people say that they will develop a new designer because
> glade does not work for them (I don;t have details) but they have not
> released anything yet...
> 
> I thought that the Sharpdevelop ide had a desinger, but I think it only
> wotks with windows.forms, not Gtk.
> 
> But as I have said, I don;t use them so my knowledge may be limited.
> 
> Wkr,
> 
> Anset.
> 
> Timothy Parez wrote:
> > I am wondering though,
> > If you don't use glade, how do you visualize what you're doing, doesn't
it
> > take ages to create an GUI that looks exactly like you want it ?
> >
> > Will there be (is there) a GTK# designer that writes C# code without
using
> > Glade?
> >
> > Thnx
> >
> > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> > Van: gtk-sharp-list-admin@lists.ximian.com
> > [mailto:gtk-sharp-list-admin@lists.ximian.com] Namens Anset
> > Verzonden: zaterdag 26 maart 2005 19:02
> > Aan: Bjoern Schiessle
> > CC: gtk-sharp-list@lists.ximian.com
> > Onderwerp: Re: [Gtk-sharp-list] GTK# App with multiple windows, where
does
> > Application.Init() and Application.Run() go?
> >
> > True,
> >
> > but as I wrote at the end, ditch glade. It's great for a quick app, but
> > if you want to do anything fancy at all, it just won't work.
> >
> > Allso, I hate not being in controll of my own application. Glade just
> > makes things complicated and it certainly does not help someone who is
> > just starting out with gtk... Too many things are hidden, and since the
> > doc for gtk is so sparse (I do not mean api info, I mean tut's en such)
> > glade is not a "good thing"(tm)
> >
> > Of course, this is my opinion, and I do not expect anybody to agree with
> > me. :)
> >
> > Anset
> >
> > Bjoern Schiessle wrote:
> >
> >>Hi,
> >>
> >>On Sa, 2005-03-26 at 11:00 +0100, Anset wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>First of all, when you create a "MyWndow" class, make it enherit
> >>>Gtk.Window. Makes your life easier:
> >>>
> >>>Class MyWindow : Gtk.Window
> >>>{
> >>>...
> >>>}
> >>
> >>
> >>Why should i inherit the MyWindow class from Gtk.Window if i have the
> >>whole window already in the glade file? If i do this, than i would have
> >>two windows, the window represented by the "MyWindow : Gtk.Window" class
> >>and the window i have pulled out of the glade file.
> >>
> >>If i don't use glade i would inherit MyWindow from Gtk.Window, but if i
> >>use glade i would do it like this:
> >>
> >>class MainWindow {
> >>
> >>    public static void Main(string[] args) {
> >>        Application.Init ();
> >>        new MainWindow ();
> >>        Application.Run ();
> >>    }
> >>
> >>    public MainWindow () {
> >>        Glade.XML gxml = new Glade.XML (null, "app.glade",
> >>                                        "MainWindow", null);
> >>        gxml.Autoconnect (this);
> >>    }
> >>    ...
> >>}
> >>
> >>and the second window which i call somewhere from MainWindow with "new
> >>SubWindow()":
> >>
> >>class SubWindow {
> >>
> >>    public SubWindow () {
> >>        Glade.XML gxml = new Glade.XML (null, "app.glade",
> >>                                        "SubWindow", null);
> >>        gxml.Autoconnect (this);
> >>    }
> >>    ....
> >>}
> >>
> >>Cheers,
> >>Bjoern
> >>
> >
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