[Mono-winforms-list] No updates on http://mwf.mono-project.com/

Mon May 16 13:48:10 EDT 2005

You are free to create the RichTextBox stub you want/need.
Since Form ist still missing MDI, it is marked as under development, that 
simple. It has nothing to do with how much of it is done, it simply means 
that we're still actively working on it and do not consider it complete. If 
you're curious what is implemented in each class, you can look at the class 
status (http://svn.myrealbox.com/mwf/class-status-System.Windows.Forms.html) 
without having to do a code review. Attributes (or whole classes) that don't 
have a MonoTODO tag attached but are not missing are supposed to be working. 
And no, those are not hard rules.

No need to be sorry about the "1.1.7 has the same problems " stuff. MWF is 
not complete, and therefore I'm not bothered by people telling us it's not 
complete. It's not advertised as complete. As long as it's under active 
development you just have to live with that stuff. The team is working hard 
and fast on implementing the missing pieces, but you're gonna have to resign 
yourself to the fact that it's gonna take some time and that those things 
important to you might not be done first before some other things not as 
important to you.

Cheers,
  Peter

-----Original Message-----
From: "Dmitriy" <ddmk at r66.ru>
To: "Peter Dennis Bartok" <peter at novonyx.com>
Date: 16 May, 2005 11:28
Subject: Re: [Mono-winforms-list] No updates on http://mwf.mono-project.com/

>So Form class is good developed as RichTextBox according to this
>page.("under development")
>(If RichTextBox is not done so Form is not done ... so any bugs to it will
>only now is undone)
>This is that from which we begins: "It is difficult to say that is bug or
>what is you working on .. "
>If there is no info there is you are none can help you without prolonged 
>SWF
>code review.
>
>Yes class status updates at least every weeks but some problems depends on
>System.Drawing
>(Image.From stream that was fixed in svn but not present in 1.1.7 release)
>So FileDialogs not works under windows becouse of this problem and several
>other controls.
>
>I am sorry about "1.1.7 release under windows has same problems as 1.1.6",
>but  this is the case from my point of view.
>
>Can anybody make a fake for RichTextBox as a copy of TextBox for programs
>not to fault of exceptions
>(appropriate warning may be sent to console and the methods may be marked 
>as
>undone attribute?)
>For most programs this make possible to test other functionality and
>compatibility to mono implementation.
>
>
>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "Peter Dennis Bartok" <peter at novonyx.com>
>To: "Dmitriy" <ddmk at r66.ru>
>Sent: Monday, May 16, 2005 10:46 PM
>Subject: Re: [Mono-winforms-list] No updates on 
>http://mwf.mono-project.com/
>
>
>> Ok, I removed that line.
>>
>> peter
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: "Dmitriy" <ddmk at r66.ru>
>> To: "Peter Dennis Bartok" <peter at novonyx.com>
>> Date: 16 May, 2005 10:38
>> Subject: Re: [Mono-winforms-list] No updates on
>> http://mwf.mono-project.com/
>>
>>
>>>>>It is difficult to say that is bug or what is you working on .. all 
>>>>>info
>>>>>about progress was too old.
>>>"Last update: Wed Jan 19 02:20:07 MST 2005
>>>This is the current 'lineup' of controls and their implementors:"
>>>
>>>From http://svn.myrealbox.com/mwf/owners.html
>>>
>>>----- Original Message ----- 
>>>From: "Peter Dennis Bartok" <peter at novonyx.com>
>>>To: "Dmitriy" <ddmk at r66.ru>; <mono-winforms-list at lists.ximian.com>
>>>Sent: Monday, May 16, 2005 10:31 PM
>>>Subject: Re: [Mono-winforms-list] No updates on
>>>http://mwf.mono-project.com/
>>>
>>>
>>>> As I mentioned in my previous email, the link on the MWF home page to
>>>> http://svn.myrealbox.com/mwf/owners.html shows you what controls are
>>>> still
>>>> being worked on and which should work. Any control that is green (or
>>>> says
>>>> testing) should work and bugs can be logged against it.
>>>> Also, the class-status is updated almost daily, and it will show you
>>>> progress. (it even lists the totals compared to the previous update at
>>>> the
>>>> bottom)
>>>>
>>>> It's ok if you log a bug that only happens on Windows (or if you don't
>>>> know
>>>> if it does or does not happen on Linux as well). Just specify the OS 
>>>> you
>>>> found it on when logging the bug. However, due to the fast development
>>>> happening on MWF, you might want to be running SVN head for libgdiplus,
>>>> System.Drawing and System.Windows.Forms.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>>  Peter
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: "Dmitriy" <ddmk at r66.ru>
>>>> To: "Peter Dennis Bartok" <peter at novonyx.com>
>>>> Date: 16 May, 2005 09:29
>>>> Subject: Re: [Mono-winforms-list] No updates on
>>>> http://mwf.mono-project.com/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>It is difficult to say that is bug or what is you working on .. all 
>>>>>info
>>>>>about progress was too old.
>>>>>But executing real application shows many problems and i don't know
>>>>>which
>>>>>of
>>>>>them is bugs or still undone.
>>>>>
>>>>>I don't have time to fix bugs in mono but i can help to give some
>>>>>samples
>>>>>where bugs appears if you need them.
>>>>>
>>>>>And if you can say which components are assumed as ready i can give 
>>>>>more
>>>>>info about bugs in it.
>>>>>
>>>>>I think some problems present only in windows distribution, but i have
>>>>>no
>>>>>time to port some native parts of application to linux,
>>>>>so i can see only difference between execution application using MONO
>>>>>and
>>>>>M$
>>>>>under windows.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>From: "Peter Dennis Bartok" <peter at novonyx.com>
>>>>>To: "Dmitriy" <ddmk at r66.ru>; <mono-winforms-list at lists.ximian.com>
>>>>>Sent: Monday, May 16, 2005 8:04 PM
>>>>>Subject: Re: [Mono-winforms-list] No updates on
>>>>>http://mwf.mono-project.com/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> >http://mwf.mono-project.com/
>>>>>>>Latest date which present at root page is [28. January 2005].
>>>>>> It's an introductory page, and as such, there's little reason to
>>>>>> change.
>>>>>> If
>>>>>> you were to follow either the class status or owners page you could
>>>>>> track
>>>>>> progress.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>This cite looks like there is no mwf development.
>>>>>>>Its blog has same problems.
>>>>>> It takes time to write blog entries (at least for me), and sometimes
>>>>>> there's
>>>>>> not enough time left after working on MWF to also write blog entries.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>1.1.7 release under windows has same problems as 1.1.6
>>>>>>>(no RichEdit, bad background clearing,strange items in Forms.controls
>>>>>>>list
>>>>>> So why don't log bugs on the problems you encounter? After all, 
>>>>>> unless
>>>>>> we
>>>>>> know about them we can't fix them. (No RichEdit is not a bug, that's
>>>>>> just
>>>>>> something that's still being worked on). Or even better, why don't 
>>>>>> you
>>>>>> help
>>>>>> us out and fix some of those bugs yourself and contribute the fixes?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>  Peter
>>>>>>
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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