[Mono-winforms-list] Windows Forms is crucial for the futuresuccess

[Jim P.]

I spoke to a tech at Infragistics and he said that the entire suite is
all managed C# except for one P-Invoke in the WinToolbar.  He hadn't
tested it yet, but in his opinion they should work as long as
Windows.Forms is implemented correctly in Mono.

Jim

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[mailto:mono-winforms-list-admin@lists.ximian.com] On Behalf Of Erik
Dasque
Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2004 1:04 PM
To: Victor Vatamanescu
Cc: mono-winforms-list@lists.ximian.com; Dan Maltes
Subject: Re: [Mono-winforms-list] Windows Forms is crucial for the
futuresuccess

Well, you guys should email Infragistics about that need. We can then 
work with them in making it happen down the line.

Erik

On Jul 28, 2004, at 2:23 PM, Victor Vatamanescu wrote:

> Hello!
>
> I am also giving a serious thought about proposing Infragistics to
make
> their control suite available on Linux. If someone wants to go further
> please count on me and my company for this effort.
>
>
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dan Maltes" <dan@astusa.com>
> To: <mono-winforms-list@lists.ximian.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2004 2:17 PM
> Subject: RE: [Mono-winforms-list] Windows Forms is crucial for the
> futuresuccess
>
>
>>
>> That's great news, thank you Jackson.  Since you are looking for 
>> possible
>> quirky behavior of SWF controls, I'm thinking perhaps some test cases

>> that
>> override the OnPaint method for persistence testing would be good.  
>> What
>> would also be nice is to get a major control vendor, like 
>> Infragistics, to
>> assign mono a liason to do some control testing with their code.  Or 
>> maybe
>> they could give you guys a compilmentry source license for testing? 
>> ;-)
> If
>> mono could eventually run the NetAdvtantage Suite that would sure be
>> impressive.  It would mean even more sales for Infragistics by 
>> opening up
>> the linux desktop to their .NET controls and a great suite of 
>> controls for
>> us developers to use.  Couldn't hurt for you guys to contact them.
>>
>> -Dan
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: mono-winforms-list-admin@lists.ximian.com
>> [mailto:mono-winforms-list-admin@lists.ximian.com] On Behalf Of 
>> Jackson
>> Harper
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2004 1:57 PM
>> To: Mark Gimelfarb
>> Cc: mono-winforms-list@lists.ximian.com
>> Subject: Re: [Mono-winforms-list] Windows Forms is crucial for the
>> futuresuccess
>>
>> On Tue, 2004-07-27 at 08:57, Mark Gimelfarb wrote:
>>> nothing will happen with it until the re-write happens (which is in
>>> progress, AFAIU).
>>
>>   The new rewrite has begun but it is more of an archetictural stage 
>> right
>> now. It will be in full swing next week, and a considerable amount of
> effort
>> will go into it. There will be more Novell developers working on 
>> winforms
>> then any other component of Mono. So I would expect it to be useable 
>> very
>> shortly.
>>
>>>  I would like to help, if
>>> I can, when the WinForms folks get to point when they've got 
>>> something
>>> to show and need help with.
>>
>>   You can help right now by developing small test cases on windows.
>> Extremely simple forms with one or two controls that cover the gamut 
>> of a
>> controls functionality. Having these test cases written before we 
>> develop
> a
>> control will save us test writing time and give us a nice blueprint 
>> for a
>> controls functionality. If you are an experienced winforms developer 
>> try
> to
>> include or document any "strange" behavior a control may have that 
>> might
> not
>> be obvious to us when we begin developing the control. Obviously 
>> larger
> test
>> cases will also be useful, but a good set of small functional test 
>> cases
>> will be extremely useful when developing SWF. Short of writing test 
>> cases
>> just documenting any non obvious or poorly documented functionality 
>> would
> be
>> very useful.
>>
>>> As far as WinForms being the most important part of the project,
>>> while I might be _partially_ with you on that one, I'm afraid that
we
>>> both are going to get flamed by the ASP.NET programmers out there :)
>>> I'd like to avoid that, if possible. So, no flames, please, I'm not
>>> making any claims to that effect here. :)
>>
>>   There is no single most important part of Mono. Mono is useful as a
> whole
>> but how useful would a complete System.Windows.Forms implementation
be
>> without a corlib or runtime? And besides we all know the assembler is

>> the
>> most important part of Mono ;-).
>>
>>> I too, would like to run all my current WinForms projects under Mono
>>
>>> on Linux, and I also have to put all of them on hold, so I'm with
you
>>> on that one.
>>
>>   See above pieces on test cases. Also as we progress in the
> implementation
>> please test your applications on Mono as often as possible and file 
>> bug
>> reports on any regressions or incorrect functionality, no matter how
>> mundane.
>>
>> Thanks for the cheer-leading Mark, much appreciated, Jackson
>>
>>
>>
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