[Mono-winforms-list] Windows Forms is crucial for the futuresuccess

Erik Dasque edasque@ximian.com
Wed, 28 Jul 2004 16:04:22 -0400


Well, you guys should email Infragistics about that need. We can then 
work with them in making it happen down the line.

Erik

On Jul 28, 2004, at 2:23 PM, Victor Vatamanescu wrote:

> Hello!
>
> I am also giving a serious thought about proposing Infragistics to make
> their control suite available on Linux. If someone wants to go further
> please count on me and my company for this effort.
>
>
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dan Maltes" <dan@astusa.com>
> To: <mono-winforms-list@lists.ximian.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2004 2:17 PM
> Subject: RE: [Mono-winforms-list] Windows Forms is crucial for the
> futuresuccess
>
>
>>
>> That's great news, thank you Jackson.  Since you are looking for 
>> possible
>> quirky behavior of SWF controls, I'm thinking perhaps some test cases 
>> that
>> override the OnPaint method for persistence testing would be good.  
>> What
>> would also be nice is to get a major control vendor, like 
>> Infragistics, to
>> assign mono a liason to do some control testing with their code.  Or 
>> maybe
>> they could give you guys a compilmentry source license for testing? 
>> ;-)
> If
>> mono could eventually run the NetAdvtantage Suite that would sure be
>> impressive.  It would mean even more sales for Infragistics by 
>> opening up
>> the linux desktop to their .NET controls and a great suite of 
>> controls for
>> us developers to use.  Couldn't hurt for you guys to contact them.
>>
>> -Dan
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: mono-winforms-list-admin@lists.ximian.com
>> [mailto:mono-winforms-list-admin@lists.ximian.com] On Behalf Of 
>> Jackson
>> Harper
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2004 1:57 PM
>> To: Mark Gimelfarb
>> Cc: mono-winforms-list@lists.ximian.com
>> Subject: Re: [Mono-winforms-list] Windows Forms is crucial for the
>> futuresuccess
>>
>> On Tue, 2004-07-27 at 08:57, Mark Gimelfarb wrote:
>>> nothing will happen with it until the re-write happens (which is in
>>> progress, AFAIU).
>>
>>   The new rewrite has begun but it is more of an archetictural stage 
>> right
>> now. It will be in full swing next week, and a considerable amount of
> effort
>> will go into it. There will be more Novell developers working on 
>> winforms
>> then any other component of Mono. So I would expect it to be useable 
>> very
>> shortly.
>>
>>>  I would like to help, if
>>> I can, when the WinForms folks get to point when they've got 
>>> something
>>> to show and need help with.
>>
>>   You can help right now by developing small test cases on windows.
>> Extremely simple forms with one or two controls that cover the gamut 
>> of a
>> controls functionality. Having these test cases written before we 
>> develop
> a
>> control will save us test writing time and give us a nice blueprint 
>> for a
>> controls functionality. If you are an experienced winforms developer 
>> try
> to
>> include or document any "strange" behavior a control may have that 
>> might
> not
>> be obvious to us when we begin developing the control. Obviously 
>> larger
> test
>> cases will also be useful, but a good set of small functional test 
>> cases
>> will be extremely useful when developing SWF. Short of writing test 
>> cases
>> just documenting any non obvious or poorly documented functionality 
>> would
> be
>> very useful.
>>
>>> As far as WinForms being the most important part of the project,
>>> while I might be _partially_ with you on that one, I'm afraid that we
>>> both are going to get flamed by the ASP.NET programmers out there :)
>>> I'd like to avoid that, if possible. So, no flames, please, I'm not
>>> making any claims to that effect here. :)
>>
>>   There is no single most important part of Mono. Mono is useful as a
> whole
>> but how useful would a complete System.Windows.Forms implementation be
>> without a corlib or runtime? And besides we all know the assembler is 
>> the
>> most important part of Mono ;-).
>>
>>> I too, would like to run all my current WinForms projects under Mono
>>
>>> on Linux, and I also have to put all of them on hold, so I'm with you
>>> on that one.
>>
>>   See above pieces on test cases. Also as we progress in the
> implementation
>> please test your applications on Mono as often as possible and file 
>> bug
>> reports on any regressions or incorrect functionality, no matter how
>> mundane.
>>
>> Thanks for the cheer-leading Mark, much appreciated, Jackson
>>
>>
>>
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