[Mono-winforms-list] Let us get this right..

[Reggie Burnett]

I completely agree that look and feel of Wine apps on the various
desktops is an issue that will need to be addressed.  Since SWF doesn't
define any special desktop behavior for any platform ( task bar docking,
etc), those bits will have to be specific.  Perhaps a good 3rd party
library can help with that.

Reggie

> -----Original Message-----
> From: mono-winforms-list-admin@lists.ximian.com [mailto:mono-winforms-
> list-admin@lists.ximian.com] On Behalf Of Dan Maltes
> Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 9:33 AM
> To: 'Reggie Burnett'; mono-winforms-list@lists.ximian.com
> Subject: RE: [Mono-winforms-list] Let us get this right..
> 
> I mean when a mono SWF app using winelib runs on a gnome desktop, what
> is it going look like?  Like an out of place pure ms windows app?
Would
> that be incredibly strange looking and awkward to end users?  On the
> other hand, I guess beggers can't be choosers, and just the very fact
> that a .net swf app would run on unix/linux systems is amazing enough.
> 
> -Dan
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: mono-winforms-list-admin@lists.ximian.com
> [mailto:mono-winforms-list-admin@lists.ximian.com] On Behalf Of Reggie
> Burnett
> Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 9:36 AM
> To: mono-winforms-list@lists.ximian.com
> Subject: RE: [Mono-winforms-list] Let us get this right..
> 
> 
> Tom,
> 
> Being a Windows developer myself, I can tell you that the issues of
> implementing WndProc and the Windows message stream in a compatible
> fashion are bigger than you imagine.  It is very often the case that
> components developed for Windows will make use of WndProc and trap
> messages to do things that the framework doesn't have support for.
> Implementing WM_MOUSEMOVE is pretty easy on a native widget set.
> Implementing a message such as LVM_ENABLEGROUPVIEW on a control that
> doesn't even exist on a widget set will be quite another story.  There
> is a reason why the WINE group has worked so hard for so long to get
> compatibility, it's not easy.
> 
> If the goal of Mono is to run as many .Net apps as possible, then Wine
> is the right approach.  The one downside is that it will still appear
as
> a half-baked solution when these apps have no clue where they are
> running and don't play ball with any Gnome or KDE desktop themes or
> actions.
> 
> Reggie
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: mono-winforms-list-admin@lists.ximian.com
[mailto:mono-winforms-
> > list-admin@lists.ximian.com] On Behalf Of Tom Potts
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 2:52 AM
> > To: mono-winforms-list@lists.ximian.com
> > Subject: [Mono-winforms-list] Let us get this right..
> >
> > To achieve the greatest cross platform continuity there should be
> (IMHO)
> > something with SWF in it.
> > My personal opinion on this is - at the moment I dont care what it
is
> so
> > long as I can get a decent mono IDE  on Linux and really start
> hacking.
> > Some people think it should be built on GTK# which is still a bit
> dynamic
> > and getting larger than mono by the minute...
> > There seems to be the thought that SWF has some wierd tricks whick
> make it
> > hard to run in non W$ but GTK has got round this problem.
> > Rather than burden (potentially) mono with a possibly overblown
> emulation
> > is
> > it not possible to isolate the 'W$ event queue' (# this from GTK??)
> and
> > write an SWF using SD.
> > I'm not sure of the legal ramifications of this as SWF is not a
> standard??
> >
> > There is a move by the #Develop  to port that to linux and it may be
> worth
> > thinking about building whatever is necessary to get that working
> under
> > X11?
> > If you can put MicroWindows in 64k ........
> > Tom
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