[Mono-osx] MacPack Oddness

ted leslie tleslie at tcn.net
Tue Oct 25 17:43:53 EDT 2005

For me SlickEdit makes a fanastic MONO IDE, i don't use debugging that often,
and the "support" is good at MSDN :)  for Mono.
I use WX.Wdigets WX.Net now for GUI, but when GTK+ is built for a non-X11 MACOSX
then I believe all will fall into place just nicely.
I probably couldnt build a full MS-EXCEL using wx.net or a 3D graphics package,
but give it a year. For now it builds stuff you would perhaps use Java for, just fine.
I do develop on Linux and deploy to MACOSX, so I can't speak for the build environment 
on MACOS, I'd assume its just like Linux to install it?
Be interesting to see what your heavy lifting requirements are? 


On Tue, 25 Oct 2005 17:04:55 -0400
Ken & Deb Allen <kendrhyd at sympatico.ca> wrote:

> I have been experimenting with Mono and the windows framework, and it  
> is far from ready for general use on MacOS X! I use .Net primarily  
> for work, and find it a great environment for development (highly  
> productive), even the mono tools there are not too bad. From what I  
> have read, some of the linux tools are not too bad, but from what I  
> can see one must go through hoops to get anything other than the  
> basic Mono package installed.
> MacOS seems to be last in the race, with few, if any, of the GUI  
> tools actually working at all. So, for MacOS, no IDE and no  
> functional debugger and really no code assistance either. But at  
> least I had hoped to be able to take  most of the code developed in  
> Windows and bring it over, only having to create a build script for it.
> Not much luck with that. It generally works, but the GUI stuff is not  
> nearly ready for real use, and some crashes of working .Net code are  
> frequent. On the other hand, the Cocoa# stuff is just too much manual  
> work.
> I really have to say that Microsoft has produced three (3) things  
> (and only these three) that I admire: SQL Server; .Net; and Visual  
> Studio .Net -- I find that productivity in these environments is well  
> and above others that I have worked in before and continue to do so.  
> XCode is great, but the Cocoa environment is missing some things that  
> are absolutely necessary for work that I do (if I had the equivalent  
> to the DataSet, DataTable, etc. classes in the Cocoa/XCode  
> environment, I would be extremely happy -- but the objective-C code  
> is not portable.
> Mono/.Net have excited me for some time, but I am not going to be  
> able to use mono for heavy lifting for some time to come. I saw from  
> another posting that we may see MonoDevelop available when the next  
> MacOS X release is generally available, and that would be great; that  
> and improvements to MWF should permit me to make more effective use  
> of mono.
> Sorry for the diversion: now for the problem I have been seeing.
> The macpack facility creates a 'package' for me that permits double- 
> clicking of generated programs, which is great, and permits the  
> windowing stuff to work, which is even better. The down side is that  
> every time I exit my program I get an alert that indicates that "The  
> application mono quit unexpectedly." I do ot know why this is  
> happening, but it would be nice if I could make it stop!
> -ken
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