[Mono-list] Mono 2.6 for Ubuntu
Andy York
andy at brdstudio.net
Thu Jan 14 05:19:22 EST 2010
Are we talking about a commercial build of Mono for Ubuntu? If not this
is very simple, if you are needing business support you need to purchase
a commercial build, which if you are using this for a commercial project
is not too much to ask. If you are not using it for business and you are
having problems report the problem and move on. If you think it can be
better then help the kind people who work everyday to make Mono.
This is how non-commercial Linux works if you don't like it you are
politely invited to help, this is no different than anything else done
in non-commercial Linux. If you don't mind I'll just say think you to
the people who work on Mono (non-commcial) for me to use and the nice
people at Ubuntu who work had bringing us Ubuntu. If I have a problem
I'll report the bug in the correct bug reporting manner. Giving the
non-commercial developers and packagers a hard time via email list
doesn't help.
Sorry the first thing I said on this list is negative but someone need
to stand up for those who work hard everyday.
Andy York (aka Spoody Goon)
On 1/14/2010 3:25 AM, Petit Eric wrote:
> deb http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/surfzoid:/DebianUbuntu:/Mono/Ubuntu_9.10_standard/
> ./
> don't work for you ?
> Are you using x86_64, as i said is broken ?
> At least you can took the source files who are ok and use it in
> lunchpad ppa of ubuntu
>
> 2010/1/14 Chorn Sokun<chornsokun at gmail.com>:
>
>> Totally agree with @daniel except that I am not agree the part where said we
>> not thanks/appreciate Ubuntu team.
>> I don't know about the rest of the world but for me and the people that I
>> introduce to /talk with them about Ubuntu they all appreciate the great
>> afford and policing put into get this excellent distro for us.
>>
>> Perhap using Window& develop in .NET Framework with just click and get
>> thing work make me junior coder a lazy labor. However to abandon Windows
>> camp and join Linux my option is to pick popular Linux distro and can do my
>> job on it that how I feel having mono ready and up to date on the Ubuntu
>> (official support :D) would be a big plus.
>>
>> Build one run every where !
>>
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>> Chorn Sokun
>> +855 12 222718
>>
>> http://chornsokun.wordpress.com
>> http://twitter.com/csokun
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 12:58 PM, daniel<trampster at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> The ubuntu devs package and deploy for their release which happens every
>>> 6 months. it is insane to say its up to them to package version released
>>> between OS versions.
>>>
>>> Ubuntu comes with a packaged version on gnome do, which is fine, however
>>> I choose to use a more recent version of gnome do so I use a PPA which
>>> is supplied by the developers (not the ubuntu devs)
>>>
>>> The fact that ubuntu/devian developers package mono for you for its OS
>>> releases is a bonus, did Microsoft package up mono and include it in
>>> its Windows 7? NO! did Apple package up mono and include it in snow
>>> leopard? no. So ubuntu is helping you guys out hugely but do you thank
>>> them? no, you just expect more of them.
>>>
>>> I also use Chrome in ubuntu. Its not in the repros at all, when I wanted
>>> to install chrome did google say... O sorry its up to ubuntu/debian to
>>> package chrome for you, its not our fault if they don't. No, they
>>> packaged it themselves and even provided different channels so I can
>>> decide exactly how cutting edge I want to be.
>>>
>>> So you have to worry about a newer version breaking existing
>>> applications, how is this different from on any other operating system?
>>>
>>> It's not up to the ubuntu devs to package new versions of mono for exist
>>> OS releases, its up to the mono project to do this and provide it as a
>>> PPA.
>>>
>>> The question you need to ask is, how important is the largest desktop
>>> linux distribution to the mono project.
>>>
>>> At my work we started to port a .net application to mono, however it
>>> need to run on ubuntu (8.04) do you know what version of mono is in
>>> 8.04 its 1.2.6, everything for our app was supported in mono 2.4 but
>>> mono 1.2.6? not even close. So we abandoned our efforts, I'm sure their
>>> are lots of other people out there with similar stories. Those of us who
>>> use ubuntu feel a little bit like second class citizens.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> B.R. wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 8:42 PM, Bálint Kardos<kardosbalint at gmail.com
>>>> <mailto:kardosbalint at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi Stephen,
>>>>
>>>> Fact 1: the provider decides on the virtualized platforms, not me.
>>>> They have Fedora, Ubuntu or Debian systems ready.
>>>>
>>>> Fact 2: I've used Debian and Fedora for a decade, so I'm more
>>>> familiar with Ubuntu as with SuSe.
>>>>
>>>> Fact 3: I've started working on merging all my sites/servers back
>>>> to Windows 2008.
>>>> It is a sad story, but the lack of real features on mono (Web
>>>> Services still has bugs for years, the LINQ implementation is a
>>>> horror etc.) makes it more and more hard to use it as a real
>>>> Production (not a toy playground) platform.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> üdvözlettel
>>>> with regards
>>>>
>>>> Kardos Bálint
>>>> _______________________________________
>>>> http://skaelede.hu 10 (0xA) év a magyar weben
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> If there are web services bugs, file bugs--if nobody knows about them,
>>>> they can't get fixed. Also, clarify what you mean by LINQ? LINQ to
>>>> Objects is pretty simple and there's only so many ways to implement
>>>> that, so I'm not sure how you can lay claim to that being a horror.
>>>> LINQ to SQL is a different story, and a huge effort that is only now
>>>> beginning to be integrated into Mono properly. You could also file
>>>> bugs for those--once again, if nobody knows about them, they can't get
>>>> fixed.
>>>>
>>>> --B.R.
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