[Mono-list] Ubuntu

[Jonathan Pobst]

I think you are arguing against "The Linux Way" TM.

Here are some other programming language download pages:

GCC: http://gcc.gnu.org/install/binaries.html
PHP: http://php.net/downloads.php
Java: http://www.java.com/en/download/manual.jsp
Python: http://www.python.org/download/

You will note that not a single one of them offers Ubuntu (or any other 
Linux) packages, and most of them provide Windows and Mac installers.

If you want to use a newer version of Mono or any of these other 
languages than what your distro provides, you follow The Linux Way, 
which is to download the tarball and build it yourself.

Jonathan


On 8/11/2010 5:54 AM, Daniel Hughes wrote:
> Does the latest mono develop work on the version of mono shipped with
> ubuntu 10.04? no
> Does the latest mono develop work with the version of mono shipped
> with ubuntu? yes
>
> Your argument would hold up if the above was not the cause, the
> problem is that mono is moving far to fast for that approach to be
> viable.
>
> So mono develop has added badger ports to their download page. (its a
> PPA for people follow this thread) but its not supported by the mono
> team like on windows and mac and opensuse.
>
> Do you realize that ubuntu has more mono users then those other
> "supported" operating systems. The banshee usage stats prove this.
> Windows has first class support and yet no one uses mono on windows
> because .net is faster and more stable. Even mono develop for windows
> runs on .net and not on mono.
>
> How much effort does the mono team go to create mono installers for
> windows? isn't that the responsibility of Microsoft to make mono work
> on windows?
>
> What about Mac how much effort does the mono team spend making mono
> run on Mac isn't that the responsibility of Apple?
>
> So it's not about user base. The has been as must as stated on here
> that its because ubuntu is linux. So the mono team doesn't support
> ubuntu because its a linux distro. Linux distro  are not important to
> the mono team. Closed operating systems are much more important. Even
> if people don't use mono on those closed systems. The exception is
> openuses which just so happens to be funded by Novell.... interesting
> how that works....
>
> I just finished lessening to the ubuntu uk podcast in which they
> interview Jo Shields aka directhex (the guy who maintains the
> badgerports PPA) and what he says about mono on ubuntu is quite
> interesting and is definitely worth a listen. Here is the link
> http://podcast.ubuntu-uk.org/2010/07/21/s03e12-the-country-fair/
>
> Ubuntu is one of the most mono accepting non novell distros out there
> in terms of what mono applications they include by default, but what
> we get from mono team amounts to a slap in the face.
>
> Does windows include mono applications by default? no. Does apple? no.
> Does ubuntu? yes. So how does mono thank ubuntu for its support? by
> giving it the big middle finger.
>
> Microsoft and Apple do not package mono or include mono by default.
> And mono thanks them for this by providing them with first class
> support.
>
> It doesn't make any sense to me at all.
>
> (I sent the email to the sender by mistake because the reply button in
> gmail replies to the sender not the list.)
>
> On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 12:57 PM, Bojan Rajkovic<severedcross at gmail.com>  wrote:
>> Does GNOME maintain PPA's like this? Does any project?
>>
>> On Aug 10, 2010 6:35 PM, "Daniel Hughes"<trampster at gmail.com>  wrote:
>>
>> No one expects mono to be pushed out as a automatic update on ubuntu.
>> We do however expect a PPA which is on even footing with windows, mac
>> etc. I.E same day support to the same quality. And supported by the
>> mono team.
>>
>> That is all.
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 2:18 AM, Bojan Rajkovic<severedcross at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 08/10/2010 10:03 AM, Christopher Monroe wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I'll second the complaint about the foru...
>>>
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