[Mono-list] Ubuntu

Miguel de Icaza miguel at novell.com
Wed Aug 11 10:47:10 EDT 2010


You have a couple of options here:
(a) Step up and participate in your favorite distribution packaging effort
(b) Raise funds to fund the salary for someone to maintain the packages on a
continuous basis
(c) Wait for the existing Debian/Ubuntu team to package the software for you
(d) Use a distribution that we provide packages for
(e) Lobby your favorite distribution to pay developers to ensure that Mono
packages are packaged and delivered promptly.

If you want to do (a), there is a mailing list for this:


Mono ships source code, and as a service, we consider where we need to fill
in the gaps.   We considered both Windows and Mac important platforms to
target due to the users on those platforms and the fact that the chances are
low that someone from that community would step up to do the work.

Ubuntu, Debian, and various BSD have motivated maintainers that follow their
relevant policies and are more knowledgeable of the procedures to get the
software properly distributed for those platforms than we do.


On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 6:54 AM, Daniel Hughes <trampster at gmail.com> wrote:

> Does the latest mono develop work on the version of mono shipped with
> ubuntu 10.04? no
> Does the latest mono develop work with the version of mono shipped
> with ubuntu? yes
> Your argument would hold up if the above was not the cause, the
> problem is that mono is moving far to fast for that approach to be
> viable.
> So mono develop has added badger ports to their download page. (its a
> PPA for people follow this thread) but its not supported by the mono
> team like on windows and mac and opensuse.
> Do you realize that ubuntu has more mono users then those other
> "supported" operating systems. The banshee usage stats prove this.
> Windows has first class support and yet no one uses mono on windows
> because .net is faster and more stable. Even mono develop for windows
> runs on .net and not on mono.
> How much effort does the mono team go to create mono installers for
> windows? isn't that the responsibility of Microsoft to make mono work
> on windows?
> What about Mac how much effort does the mono team spend making mono
> run on Mac isn't that the responsibility of Apple?
> So it's not about user base. The has been as must as stated on here
> that its because ubuntu is linux. So the mono team doesn't support
> ubuntu because its a linux distro. Linux distro  are not important to
> the mono team. Closed operating systems are much more important. Even
> if people don't use mono on those closed systems. The exception is
> openuses which just so happens to be funded by Novell.... interesting
> how that works....
> I just finished lessening to the ubuntu uk podcast in which they
> interview Jo Shields aka directhex (the guy who maintains the
> badgerports PPA) and what he says about mono on ubuntu is quite
> interesting and is definitely worth a listen. Here is the link
> http://podcast.ubuntu-uk.org/2010/07/21/s03e12-the-country-fair/
> Ubuntu is one of the most mono accepting non novell distros out there
> in terms of what mono applications they include by default, but what
> we get from mono team amounts to a slap in the face.
> Does windows include mono applications by default? no. Does apple? no.
> Does ubuntu? yes. So how does mono thank ubuntu for its support? by
> giving it the big middle finger.
> Microsoft and Apple do not package mono or include mono by default.
> And mono thanks them for this by providing them with first class
> support.
> It doesn't make any sense to me at all.
> (I sent the email to the sender by mistake because the reply button in
> gmail replies to the sender not the list.)
> On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 12:57 PM, Bojan Rajkovic <severedcross at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Does GNOME maintain PPA's like this? Does any project?
> >
> > On Aug 10, 2010 6:35 PM, "Daniel Hughes" <trampster at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > No one expects mono to be pushed out as a automatic update on ubuntu.
> > We do however expect a PPA which is on even footing with windows, mac
> > etc. I.E same day support to the same quality. And supported by the
> > mono team.
> >
> > That is all.
> >
> > On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 2:18 AM, Bojan Rajkovic <severedcross at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> > On 08/10/2010 10:03 AM, Christopher Monroe wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> I'll second the complaint about the foru...
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