[Mono-list] MonoDevelop 0.7
Adam Tauno Williams
awilliam at whitemice.org
Sun May 22 11:27:11 EDT 2005
> >I'm running monodevelop successfully on SuSe 9.3.
> >1. Forget all this rug stuff, it doesn't work; I fiddled with it for a
> >long time.
> >2. Remove ALL SuSe's mono packages, this requires removing Beagle and
> >Tomboy but you can put them in again later.
> >3. Download the packages from http://www.mono-project.com/Downloads into
> >a directory
> >4. Do a rpm -Uvh * in that directory
> >5. On two of five boxes I needed to run "/sbin/ldconfig" before anything
> >would work.
> >6. Monodevelop now runs!
> Thanks for that. I'm not sure what it says about Novell if what you say
> is true. Rug is their recommended method after all, so if it doesn't
> work, especially on their own distribution (SuSE), they really ought to
> be looking at it. Maybe they are.
9.3 is new, as is Monodevelop 0.7; these things will sort themselves
out. I've been using rug/red-carpet since Ximian released it, it is an
excellent product and solution.
> a) What should I uninstall? Do I have to use rug to do it, as I used
> rug to install at least some of the packages in the first place? Or
> should I use apt, or YaST, since I guess some of the packages were in
> the original 9.3 upgrade?
rpm -qa | grep mono
Remove all those, and the ones that depend on them.
> b) Following the link you gave to the 9.3 packages leads me to 30
> separate packages to install, or 5 zip files containing these 30
> packages. Once I've got all these packages, which ones am I supposed to
> install and in what order?
You probably want all of them although you may not need all the "gapi"
ones; and it you don't do ASP/web stuff you don't need mon_mono/xsp.
But I'd guess you want all the other ones.
> I suppose that I can at least take some consolation from the fact that I
> don't appear to be the only one having trouble. It does make you
> compare the installation experience with the equivalent for VS, doesn't
VS wasn't released last week for a Windows version only about a month
> VS does take a long time to install, and I have had the occasional
> problem with it, but nothing like this. And I've never had any trouble
> installing the .NET framework. It won't put me off from getting to
> grips with mono - but it may mean that I just use it as a runtime
> environment and not for development. I'd find that very sad.
Ok, I've never used VS. You'd have to pay me a great deal of money to
put up with using a M$ product for my day-to-day work. Time is saves it
one area it consumes may fold more futzing with myriad 'mystery'
problems with useless error messages.
> I've been trying to get a full mono 1.1.x installation with monodevelop
> now almost since the day 1.1 was released. :( Although I should perhaps
> note that the problem has always been with monodevelop. mono itself has
> always installed just fine and done exactly what it's supposed to do.
> However, I regard a decent IDE as very important.
Same, monodevelop is the bugger of the mix.
> I know this isn't a
> view shared by everyone, but I much prefer to use a good IDE over a text
> editor, however sophisticated.
Same, an monodevelop is quite nice; certainly worth the wrestling match
to get it to run.
> Hopefully this doesn't sound overcritical. Mono is important to me and
> I want it to succeed. I recognise that there may be issues with my
> particular installation even though it is a brand new SuSE 9.3 install
> (via upgrade from 9.2), so there shouldn't be that many problems, should
I never upgrade. Make /home a separate partition and just reinstall the
new distribution. I belong to a largish LUG and just about everyone has
given up on upgrading; for a workstation the convenience of upgrading
is rarely worth the potential flakiness (especially if you've used third
party packages or ever once done an rpm --force).
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