[Mono-list] Developing MONO
Graham Allwood
Graham.Allwood@CODA.com
Thu, 6 Mar 2003 08:47:35 -0000
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Thanks for the reply Erik and Sebastien.
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Sebastien, do you use cygwin then?
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I'm really keen on contributing (if I get the time) but I need to get =
the
environment right. I'm a windows .net developer so would feel more at =
home
in Windows. I take it that there aren't enough GNU build tools =
available for
Windows to eliminate Cygwin are there? I've been trying for a while now =
to
get Cygwin to build MONO from the scripts but there's always something
wrong.
=20
This may be a na=EFve question but why is it so complicated building =
MONO? I
mean these all these utilities used like configure, automake (or =
something).
=20
Final question (for now), why can't both the Windows and Unix builds =
use the
same Nant file?
=20
Thanks
=20
Graham
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-----Original Message-----
From: Sebastien Pouliot [mailto:spouliot@videotron.ca]=20
Sent: 05 March 2003 22:57
To: Graham Allwood; mono-list@ximian.com
Subject: Re: [Mono-list] Developing MONO
=20
Hello Graham,
=20
I been using exclusively Windows 2000 for the last 6 months (well since =
I
joined up Mono) without too much difficulty (once setup). However I =
only
work on the class library (I can't build the runtime) and I never used =
GTK#
or QT# (actually I never used Winforms), the Mono debugger (screenshots =
are
so cool that I may install Linux just to try it) so YMMV.
=20
For myself the most difficult part is that the Linux and Windows build =
are
different (make versus NAnt), which sometimes lead to small problems =
(mostly
when I break the Linux build because I forget to add the new files the
unix.args).
=20
So running XP shouldn't stop you from contributing in (most part of) =
Mono.
=20
Sebastien Pouliot
Security Architect, Motus Technologies, http://www.motus.com/
<http://www.motus.com/>=20
work: spouliot@motus.com <mailto:spouliot@motus.com>=20
home: spouliot@videotron.ca <mailto:spouliot@videotron.ca>=20
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Graham Allwood <mailto:Graham.Allwood@CODA.com> =20
To: mono-list@ximian.com <mailto:mono-list@ximian.com> =20
Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 12:27 PM
Subject: [Mono-list] Developing MONO
=20
Just out of interest, how many people use Unix / Linux for writing /
contributing to MONO and how many people use Windows?
=20
I wouldn't mind helping but I'm running WinXP, am I going to find it
difficult?
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Graham
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Thanks for the reply Erik and =
<span
class=3DSpellE>Sebastien</span>.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>=
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span class=3DSpellE><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Sebastien</span>=
</font></span><font
size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>, do you use <span class=3DSpellE>cygwin</span> =
then?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>=
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I'm really keen on contributing =
(if
I get the time) but I need to get the environment right. I'm a <span
class=3DGramE>windows</span> .net developer so would feel more at home =
in Windows.
I take it that there aren't enough GNU build tools available for =
Windows
to eliminate <span class=3DSpellE>Cygwin</span> are there? I've been =
trying
for a while now to get <span class=3DSpellE>Cygwin</span> to build MONO =
from the
scripts but there's always something =
wrong.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>=
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>This may be a na=EFve question but =
why is it
so complicated building MONO? I mean these all these utilities used =
like <span
class=3DGramE>configure,</span> <span class=3DSpellE>automake</span> =
(or something).<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>=
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Final question (for now), why =
can't
both the Windows and <span class=3DGramE>Unix</span> builds use the =
same Nant file?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Thanks<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>=
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
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---Original
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<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> Sebastien Pouliot
[mailto:spouliot@videotron.ca] <br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> =
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Month=3D"3" Day=3D"5" Year=3D"2003"><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span =
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<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Graham Allwood;
mono-list@ximian.com<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [Mono-list]
Developing MONO</span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D3
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Hello =
Graham,</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D3
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>I been using =
exclusively
Windows 2000 for the last 6 months (well since I joined up Mono) =
without too
much difficulty (once setup). However I only work on the class library =
(I can't
build the runtime) and I never used GTK# or QT# (actually I never used
Winforms), the Mono debugger (screenshots are so cool that I may =
install
Linux just to try it) so YMMV.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D3
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>For myself the =
most difficult
part is that the Linux and Windows build are different (make versus =
NAnt),
which sometimes lead to small problems (mostly when I break the Linux =
build
because I forget to add the new files the =
unix.args).</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D3
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>So running XP shouldn't =
stop you
from contributing in (most part =
of) Mono.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D3
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Sebastien Pouliot<br>
Security Architect, Motus Technologies, <a =
href=3D"http://www.motus.com/">http://www.motus.com/</a><br>
work: <a href=3D"mailto:spouliot@motus.com">spouliot@motus.com</a><br>
home: <a =
href=3D"mailto:spouliot@videotron.ca">spouliot@videotron.ca</a></span></=
font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>----- Original Message =
----- <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal =
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size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:
bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <a href=3D"mailto:Graham.Allwood@CODA.com"
title=3D"Graham.Allwood@CODA.com">Graham Allwood</a> =
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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</font></b><font
size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <a
href=3D"mailto:mono-list@ximian.com" =
title=3D"mono-list@ximian.com">mono-list@ximian.com</a>
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><b><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Sent:</spa=
n></font></b><font
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Month=3D"3" Day=3D"5" Year=3D"2003"><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Wednesday, March 05, =
2003</span></font></st1:date><font
size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> </span></font><st1:time
Hour=3D"12" Minute=3D"27"><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>12:27 PM</span></font></st1:time><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><b><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Subject:</=
span></font></b><font
size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> [Mono-list]
Developing MONO<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D3
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Just out of interest, how =
many
people use Unix / Linux for writing / contributing to<span
style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>=A0 </span>MONO and how many people use =
Windows?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></f=
ont></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>I wouldn't mind helping =
but I'm
running WinXP, am I going to find it =
difficult?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></f=
ont></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Graham<o:p></o:p></span></f=
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