[Mono-list] FYI : Mono on the MSDN site

Piers Haken piersh@friskit.com
Wed, 5 Jun 2002 01:33:18 -0700


Miguel, I know you said you had some contact with the ECMA guys. What's
the story on updating the ECMA spec with regards to compatibility with
what MS has released? Are they happy with the fact that the (currently)
only existing implementation of the spec, and the one on which the spec
was based doesn't actually comply?

Piers.

-----Original Message-----
From: James Michael DuPont [mailto:mdupont777@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 10:55 PM
To: A Rafael D Teixeira; eagle@uoxdev.com
Cc: mono-list@ximian.com
Subject: Re: [Mono-list] FYI : Mono on the MSDN site



--- A Rafael D Teixeira <rafaelteixeirabr@hotmail.com>
wrote:
> Only now Iīve found some time to answer. Sorry!
Thanks for your answer. It realy puts things into
perspective.

> 
> >I cannot find this on the english site.
> That article was written by an brazilian .NET
> evangelist, for the local site
> only...
Thats funny...


> Well, I agree about the language being an standard,
> and that is far better 
> than the Java situation, but that is just not enough
> to say itīs open, or 
> will be kept open: if Microsoft doesnīt make a
> commitment to advance the 
> language always through ECMA, they can make

They have not updated the ECMA spec, but put all the
changes to their web page. There is no real statement
on what to use. Problem is that everyone uses the new
version from MS, and the ECMA version is just getting
older. 

It is not clear to be if we can even use the Microsoft
Copy of the ECMA, because of the MSDN copyright.
Remember the perl script that extracts code from
documents, well we dont want to get into the same
issue by using the copyrighted spec and not the
standard.

> proprietary extensions (Borland 
> Turbo Pascal/Delphi/Kylix coming to my mind as
> something proprietary and 
> sucessfull and well beyond what Pascal used to be),
> that could not be 
> implemented by competitors.
> 
> Their study on "generics" support is a prime
> example, being covered by 
> copyrights, and possibly patents, from Microsoft
> Research.
> 
> For the sake of many mono-hackers: "generics" is
> something akin to C++ 
> templates, but that can also expand AT RUNTIME with
> FULL TYPE-SAFETY. That 
> would make possible to have typed ArrayLists, as we
> now have typed arrays.
That sounds interesting. 
Is it in the C# ECMA spec, i did not see that yet.


Thanks again for your insite.

mike

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James Michael DuPont

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