[Mono-dev] System.Json string handling

Chris Rogus cricel472 at gmail.com
Sun Sep 21 10:58:00 UTC 2014

So, lurker though I have been to date, I would like to one day be able to
help.  Miguel/whoever, what is the road to prove myself to be able to help
with this backlog and support this excellent and worthwhile project?
On Sep 21, 2014 5:18 AM, "Martin Thwaites" <monoforum at my2cents.co.uk> wrote:

> I would have to both agree and disagree with Edward on that...
> Yes you need things to be updated and made to work so you get people
> wanting to use the platform.  However, without making sure that the patches
> meet standards and are considering all the options, you risk the opposite
> the code gets worse, there are knock on affects.
> I'm as frustrated with the current process as most as I've been waiting
> for the MVC5 stuff to be fixed and merged for a while.  What I would say is
> though, I'd prefer for MVC4 to continue working as is, than some MVC5 stuff
> work and MVC4 become unstable.
> You have to appreciate the position Miguel and the mono team are in.  They
> have a commercial product to maintain, that without that, they wouldn't be
> able to eat (or put on what I've been told are awesome parties).
> At the end of the day, having mono is better than not.  Also, it's better
> maintained than some other open source projects.
> That said, I think that there isn't enough time, currently, dedicated to
> code that isn't useful to Xamarin.  They have taken stewardship of a
> platform that goes beyond mobile platforms, and are controlling the
> elements that are not part of their core business, however, they are acting
> as a bottleneck for those.
> In short, there is a lot room for improvement, but where we are is by no
> means a bad position.
> Just my two (or possibly four) cents.
> Martin
> On 21 September 2014 02:29, 何子杰Hzj_jie <hzj_jie at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>  And how to define practices and skills? If you guys do not have time to
>> review the changes from contributors out of mono group, then how to find
>> out new people to join the group? And, I continually see an incorrect
>> design pattern in mono source code, which may cause unexpected behavior in
>> multithreading environment. This kind of issue may not be able to get
>> totally fixed, until someone else pointed out the design pattern is not
>> correct.
>> .Hzj_jie
>>  ------------------------------
>> From: Edward Ned Harvey (mono) <edward.harvey.mono at clevertrove.com>
>> Sent: ‎21/‎9/‎2014 3:13
>> To: Miguel de Icaza <miguel at xamarin.com>; 何子杰Hzj_jie
>> <hzj_jie at hotmail.com>
>> Cc: Steffen Kieß <Steffen.Kiess at ipvs.uni-stuttgart.de>;
>> mono-devel-list at lists.ximian.com
>> Subject: RE: [Mono-dev] System.Json string handling
>>  > From: mono-devel-list-bounces at lists.ximian.com [mailto:
>> mono-devel-list-
>> > bounces at lists.ximian.com] On Behalf Of Edward Ned Harvey (mono)
>> >
>> > Tru dat.  However,
>> I guess I'm actually trying to say two separate things:
>> * When broken stuff doesn't get fixed, it's a disincentive for usage
>> adoption.
>> and
>> * When pull requests get ignored, it is a disincentive to contributors
>> trying to contribute anymore (fixing things).
>> This is an unfortunate positive feedback loop, which can hopefully be
>> broken some day.  I know based on my experience here so far, I'm not going
>> to bother trying to fix anything anymore.  My time would have been better
>> spent, finding an alternative to mono SslStream instead of trying to
>> contribute the fix to make mono SslStream operational.
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