[Mono-devel-list] Anyone interested in developing ObjectSpaces?

[Rafael Ferreira]

I would be willing to help out, given that we can get enough information
out of MS on it.  I haven't looked at the docs myself, but I'll do that
tonight. 


- Rafael 


On Sun, 2003-11-09 at 15:26, Met @ Uber wrote:
> I'd be more than willing to take a section of the code and writeup
> skeleton's for them.  Suggestions where to start (what are you doing
> first?)?  
> 
> We really need a complete list of what ObjectSpaces provides, a check
> list of sorts.  It would need to be pretty detailed (lots of layers). 
> And from that we can easily pick implementation paths.  Just like with
> Mono, not everything is there yet, but almost every feature that is
> relied on is.  In my mind that would help make ObjectSpaces seem
> smaller, thus easier to manage.  
> 
> I completely agree with your point the ProviderBase classes.  The point
> is to get something running, and we can then continue to fix up all the
> sections as they become apparent.  
> 
> ~ Matthew
> 
> On Sun, 2003-11-09 at 16:22, Mark Easton wrote:
> > Matthew,
> > 
> > Having woken up with a bit of a gnarly hangover this morning, I actually
> > decided I should put my fingers to my keyboard and started tapping out
> > some files for ObjectSpaces.
> > 
> > It looks to me that there's a damned lot that needs doing, but I've set
> > myself a personal goal of trying to generate a complete set of files
> > with the correct method signatures by the end of November.  I reckon
> > generating a complete set of signatured files is an excellent way to
> > understand how the various bits fit together, and if you want to take on
> > some of the files, great, otherwise I'll keep on tapping and you can use
> > your energy on more interesting bits of ObjectSpace.
> > 
> > The noisiest issues circulating in my mind are whether the
> > implementation can rely on other ADO.NET 2.0 features (particularly the
> > ProviderBase stuff and generics), although I don't see any reason why it
> > shouldn't use Mono's provider factory in the first instance and then
> > sway to the providerbase when and as it's implemented in Mono.
> > 
> > Mark 
> > 
> > Ps I've drawn a UML Visio diagram to try and grapple with my
> > understanding of ObjectSpaces which you can take a peek at
> > http://www.tebiki.co.uk/downloads/ObjectSpaces_Design.vsd or
> > http://www.tebiki.co.uk/downloads/ObjectSpaces_Design.jpg. I'll try to
> > update it as my understanding evolves, but the MS documentation is so
> > pants its difficult to tell which is ObjectSpace's arse and which bits
> > are its elbows at the moment.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Met @ Uber [mailto:met at uberstats.com] 
> > Sent: 09 November 2003 18:42
> > To: Mark Easton
> > Cc: 'Mono-devel'
> > Subject: RE: [Mono-devel-list] Anyone interested in developing
> > ObjectSpaces?
> > 
> > On Sat, 2003-11-08 at 20:59, Mark Easton wrote:
> > > Having a rather unhealthy interest in ORM technologies I wouldn't mind
> > > helping out with the ObjectSpaces stuff.
> > > 
> > > Considering I haven't taken an active part in Mono yet, is there any
> > > advice on what I'm going to need to get started apart from a handful
> > of
> > > time and some strong coffee?
> > > 
> > > M
> > 
> > It sounds like you've got everything.
> > 
> > For now I'm just going to spend some time looking through their 
> > documentation which can be found by going to Longhorn's SDK 
> > (http://longhorn.msdn.microsoft.com) and searching for ObjectSpaces.  
> > A LOT of stuff will come up.  Perhaps then I'll have a better idea of
> > how to _really_ get started.  
> > 
> > Keep in touch.
> > 
> > ~ Matthew
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
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