[Moonlight-list] Getting a basic IronPython SL app working in Moonlight
Jimmy Schementi
jschementi at gmail.com
Wed Jul 22 22:28:17 EDT 2009
On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 5:51 PM, Sebastien Pouliot <
sebastien.pouliot at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello Jimmy,
>
> On Wed, 2009-07-22 at 16:28 -0700, Jimmy Schementi wrote:
> > Here's a pretty significant IronRuby app working in Moonlight:
> > http://jimmy.schementi.com/silverlight/Tutorial/
> >
> >
> > Is there a good way to detect that Moonlight is running it? I do a
> > very naive test for System.Windows.Browser to differentiate between
> > desktop/silverlight, but because some things don't work in Moonlight I
> > want to differentiate it further.
>
> I don't think we have (yet) a safe, future proof, way to detect
> Moonlight (like we have one documented for Mono itself). I suggest you
> test for a specific (internal) Moonlight type and react accordingly.
>
> e.g. Type.GetType("Mono.MoonException, System.Windows, ...") !=
> null
>
> But don't interpret this as the final answer - it's not something that
> should be used as-is since we want to fix things not working on
> Moonlight (not have applications hide them ;-)
>
Great, that will work for now. And yes, I'll make sure to report bugs for
things that aren't working, this is just a temporary thing =)
> > BUT it crashes Firefox when I click on the "IronRuby tutorial", and
> > then try to type something in the prompt. It's a TextBox with the
> > KeyUp event hooked, it looks like the crash happens before control
> > gets to the handler.
> >
> >
> > Here's what Firefox spits out, in case it helps:
>
> [removed]
>
> This was one of the issue I have seen yesterday while testing webide (on
> the control sample*). I fixed it this morning in r138413. You'll need to
> update (again ;-) your plugin to that revision (or later).
>
> Have fun at OSCON!
> Sebastien
>
> * it occurs because the plugin is running windowless (even if it does
> not look like that was required for webide).
>
Ah! You're awesome. I'll update and let you know how it goes. If I run
non-windowless it does work, but the enter key isn't reacting; I'll take a
look.
>
> >
> > On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 12:45 PM, Jimmy Schementi
> > <jschementi at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > The webide problem is fixed* in SVN r138338.
> > > Your extra details about the '/' parts helped a lot.
> >
> >
> > I got it working against that latest build of Moonlight!
> > Thanks!!! Here's a little test app working:
> > http://jimmy.schementi.com/silverlight/mlruby
> >
> >
> > Now time to play with some non-trivial examples, I'll let you
> > know if I have any other problems. Thanks!!!
> >
> >
> > ~Jimmy
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 8:41 PM, Jimmy Schementi
> > <jschementi at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Ah yes, it is failing because ExtensionPart is
> > referenced; the stack trace you gave me makes that
> > clear. I can build the DLR without the SILVERLIGHT_3
> > flag, which will avoid using ExtensionPart. I'll let
> > you know what happens. Thanks!
> >
> > ~Jimmy
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 6:00 PM, Sebastien Pouliot
> > <sebastien.pouliot at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hello Jimmy,
> >
> > System.Windows.ExtensionPart is new in
> > Silverlight 3 and used to refer
> > to external library packages (shared zip
> > files). This feature does not
> > yet exists in Moonlight.
> >
> >
> http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/system.windows.extensionpart(VS.95).aspx<http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/system.windows.extensionpart%28VS.95%29.aspx>
> >
> > However this is not used inside of your
> > AppManifest.xaml so I guess*
> > you're shipping a new (3.0) assembly in your
> > XAP file (which refers to
> > that type).
> >
> > * well a bit more than a guess since
> > grep says your XAP's
> > Microsoft.Scripting.Silverlight.dll
> > refers to this type
> >
> > Then again this message
> > about System.Windows.ExtensionPart could be
> > unrelated to real issue** but you may wish to
> > try with older (2.0)
> > assemblies to confirm this on Moonlight.
> >
> > ** but
> >
> > while
> http://jimmy.schementi.com/silverlight/sl-ipy-clock give
> > me some output on SL2/XP - the only
> > thing I get is the standard
> > splashscreen followed by a
> > TypeLoadException ;-)
> >
> > TypeLoadException: Error 0x80131522.
> > Debugging resource strings are unavailable.
> > See
> >
> http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?linkid=106663&Version=2.0.31005.0&File=mscorrc.dll&Key=0x80131522
> > at
> >
> Microsoft.Scripting.Silverlight.DynamicAppManifest.UsesDLRExternals()
> > at
> >
> Microsoft.Scripting.Silverlight.DynamicAppManifest.LoadAssemblies(Action
> onComplete)
> > at
> >
> Microsoft.Scripting.Silverlight.DynamicApplication.DynamicApplication_Startup(Object
> sender, StartupEventArgs e)
> > at
> >
> System.Windows.CoreInvokeHandler.InvokeEventHandler(Int32 typeIndex,
> Delegate handlerDelegate, Object sender, Object args)
> > at MS.Internal.JoltHelper.FireEvent(IntPtr
> > unmanagedObj, IntPtr unmanagedObjArgs, Int32
> > argsTypeIndex, String eventName)
> >
> > Sebastien
> >
> >
> > On Tue, 2009-07-21 at 18:00 -0400, Sebastien
> > Pouliot wrote:
> > > Hello Jimmy,
> > >
> > > The webide problem is fixed* in SVN r138338.
> > Your extra details about
> > > the '/' parts helped a lot.
> > >
> > > If you cannot build moonlight from SVN then
> > you should try to install
> > > the unsigned XPI that our build bots
> > produce. Once built the links will
> > > be shown on those URLs.
> > >
> > > [x86_64]
> > >
> >
> http://sublimeintervention.com:8123/ViewLane.aspx?lane_id=4&host_id=7&revision_id=8633
> > >
> > > [x86]
> > >
> >
> http://sublimeintervention.com:8123/ViewLane.aspx?lane_id=4&host_id=6&revision_id=8633
> > >
> > >
> > > No fix yet
> > about
> http://jimmy.schementi.com/silverlight/sl-ipy-clock
> > > With the previous commit it seems to be
> > looking for the (missing)
> > > System.Windows.ExtensionPart class
> > >
> > > Sebastien
> > >
> > > * there seems to be a few other buglets
> > around but hopefully they will
> > > be solved in later revisions.
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, 2009-07-21 at 13:28 -0700, Chris
> > Toshok wrote:
> > > > We've spent some cycles tracking this
> > down, but nothing concrete
> > > > toward fixing it (yet). It's similar to
> > problems that have crept in
> > > > to make the tests work which cause
> > problems with several deployed
> > > > sites, like netflix. We'll put some
> > effort in tonight and hopefully
> > > > have some good news for you in the
> > morning.
> > > >
> > > > Chris
> > > >
> > > > On 07/21/2009 01:13 PM, Jimmy Schementi
> > wrote:
> > > > > Any thoughts? Sorry for the urgency, but
> > I'd like to show Moonlight
> > > > > and IronRuby at OSCON on Thursday.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > ~Jimmy
> > > > >
> > > > > On Jul 21, 2009, at 1:19 AM, Jimmy
> > Schementi <jschementi at gmail.com>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > I'm trying to get a simple IronPython
> > application working in
> > > > > > Moonlight:
> > > > > >
> >
> http://jimmy.schementi.com/silverlight/sl-ipy-clock
> > > > > > (Download:
> > > > > >
> >
> http://jimmy.schementi.com/silverlight/sl-ipy-clock.zip)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > This works in Silverlight 2 and
> > Silverlight 3, but not Moonlight
> > > > > > 1.9.6. And the error is unfortunately
> > not that helpful:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Unhandled Error in Silverlight 2
> > Application
> > > > > > Code: -1
> > > > > > Category: RuntimeError
> > > > > > Message: A type load exception has
> > occurred.
> > > > > > MethodName: 0
> > > > > >
> > > > > > file:///srv/www/htdocs/clock/error.js
> > > > > > Line 31
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Also, the Python WebIDE
> > > > > >
> > (
> http://www.voidspace.org.uk/ironpython/webide/webide.html) does
> > > > > > not work, though is site says it does
> > > > > >
> > (
> http://go-mono.com/moonlight/MoonlightStatus.aspx?v=2). FWIW,
> > > > > > most of the examples on that page do
> > work for me. The error
> > > > > > message this encounters is a bit more
> > descriptive: this app uses a
> > > > > > slightly-undocumented feature (I've
> > documented it on my blog =P)
> > > > > > which will load an assembly outside
> > the XAP file if a the
> > > > > > AppManifest.xaml file has a
> > <AssemblyPart Source="<uri>" />
> > > > > > element where <url> is a rooted
> > relative URL
> > > > > > (eg /deploy/IronPython.dll) or a
> > fully-qualified URI. And it seems
> > > > > > that Moonlight doesn't support this
> > yet:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Unhandled Error in Silverlight 2
> > Application Code: 2105 Category:
> > > > > > RuntimeError Message: Trying to load
> > the assembly
> > > > > >
> >
> '/deploy/Microsoft.Scripting.ExtensionAttribute.dll' outside the
> > > > > > XAP directory. MethodName: 0
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I've installed the Moonlight 2.0
> > Preview 7 (1.9.6) on the VMware
> > > > > > Suse VM here:
> > > > > >
> >
> http://ftp.novell.com/pub/mono/appliance/2.4.2.1/Mono-2.4.2.1-vmx.zip.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > What is the preferred way I can debug
> > a Moonlight app so I can
> > > > > > give you guys better bug reports?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks!
> > > > > > ~Jimmy
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
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