[MonoDevelop] Monodevelop brother

Mon, 28 Jun 2004 08:46:21 -0500

I would like to list a set of features in VS.NET that are super powerful 
and any good IDE will need to support in the .NET Space.

No. 1 - Typed DataSets!  In VS.NET you can use the XML Schema designer 
to literally generate your systems base code from your XSD.  This code 
includes the typted datasets tables, columns, fields etc.  No more 
coding class libraries when you build a system if you have this feature. 
  Cuts way down on development time.

No. 2 - Ability to import web references and have all the code generated 
for the proxy.

No. 3 - Generation of source code documentation from C# XML comments

No. 4 - Ability to include a database server reference.  Currently 
VS.NET only includes  support for SQL SErver obviously.  What would be 
fantasmic would be to have the ability to reference SQlite, MySQL, 
PostergreSQL.  This would include the ability manipulate database 
objects, and manage the data for quick turnaround debugging and testing.

No. 5 - A good extensibility architecture so that CVS or sub version can 
be built into the solution management part of your IDE

Although I have so much work I can't take part in a project like this. 
Because I use VS.nET extensively I feel like I have a handle on what 
helps us the most on projects.   If you guys are interested in more 
information and I have some let me know.

Thanks,
Allan

J.M.Piulachs [Sand!] wrote:
> No problem the download has been taken offline . I will do this search in my
> code , Please excuse me for any inconvenience caused by my annoncement .I
> will notice when the download gets back on-line.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Christoph Wille" <christophw@alphasierrapapa.com>
> To: "J.M.Piulachs [Sand!]" <jmarc.piulachs@esand.net>;
> <monodevelop-list@lists.ximian.com>; <mike@icsharpcode.net>
> Cc: <mike@icsharpcode.net>; "Bernhard Spuida" <bernhard@icsharpcode.net>
> Sent: Monday, June 28, 2004 10:56 AM
> Subject: Re: [MonoDevelop] Monodevelop brother
> 
> 
> 
>>I usually do not go public unless I'm close to 100% sure I'm on to
> 
> something...
> 
>>Mike's post clearly has enough evidence that you are using ours as well as
>>someone else's source code. Note that we did not perform an exhaustive
>>comparison, just enough to prove the misappropriation of source code.
>>
>>The meat: it is fine with us that you release the code under GPL. However,
>>it is not that you also sell it as a commercial offering. We expect as a
>>courteous act from your side that you take it offline immediately, I don't
>>actually want to get into the issues of you offering it in the first
> 
> place.
> 
>>Closing words: we do not feel like searching your code and telling you
>>where you blatantly used ours or someone else's. We expect that you do the
>>right thing.
>>
>>Chris
>>Senior Project Wrangler, #develop
>>
>>At 10:02 AM 6/28/2004, J.M.Piulachs [Sand!] wrote:
>>
>>>Hi ,
>>>
>>>Sure , you can look at the source code , I have taken lots of ideas from
>>>sharpdevelop , Eclipse and Visual Studio but I have not used source code
>>
>>>from any of this products.
>>
>>>Some interfaces may have property names , methods or comments similar to
> 
> SD
> 
>>>or VS (its normal , I have learnt form them) .If you find any copyrighted
>>>code I will remove it for sure , but please don't acuse me of using
>>>copyrighted code before even analize the code.
>>>
>>>Thanks!
>>>
>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: "Christoph Wille" <christophw@alphasierrapapa.com>
>>>To: "J.M.Piulachs [Sand!]" <jmarc.piulachs@esand.net>;
>>><monodevelop-list@lists.ximian.com>
>>>Cc: <mike@icsharpcode.net>; "Bernhard Spuida" <bernhard@icsharpcode.net>
>>>Sent: Monday, June 28, 2004 9:44 AM
>>>Subject: Re: [MonoDevelop] Monodevelop brother
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>We (the #develop team) will be looking at it very closely. Judging
> 
> from
> 
>>>the
>>>
>>>>cursory look I had so far, it looks quite similar to large extents of
>>>>#develop codebase - Mike will have a closer look at the source code
> 
> level,
> 
>>>>and then we will know for sure.
>>>>
>>>>If you were offering it GPL only, we wouldn't even comment - however,
> 
> you
> 
>>>>offer it dual-licensed which you cannot do if you are not the
> 
> copyright
> 
>>>>owner. You will understand that we do not necessarily like that idea
> 
> that
> 
>>>>someone *might* unlawfully sell our work.
>>>>
>>>>Chris
>>>>Senior Project Wrangler
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>At 09:15 AM 6/28/2004, J.M.Piulachs [Sand!] wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>>First of all Monodevelop is an amaizing product , the monodevelop
>>>
>>>community
>>>
>>>>>is doing a great job!
>>>>>
>>>>>I write to let you know that I have started a new .net based open
> 
> source
> 
>>>IDE
>>>
>>>>>inspired by VS/Eclipse. you can fine more information about SDE (our
> 
> ide)
> 
>>>at
>>>
>>>>>http://sde.esand.net/.
>>>>>
>>>>>More than a product by itself SDE is a framework to create complex
>>>>>development environments. This product was born to solve our own
> 
> internal
> 
>>>>>interface needs .Our intention was to focus our effors creating
> 
> 'editing
> 
>>>>>based products' (like metadata editors , software modeling tools ,
>>>
>>>designers
>>>
>>>>>, etc..)  and reuse and IDE like evironment .It was designed with
>>>>>extensibility in mind and thus relies on plug-ins and compiler
> 
> bindings
> 
>>>more
>>>
>>>>>or less like MonoDevelop . The product has grown and now be have
> 
> decided
> 
>>>to
>>>
>>>>>relase under GNU.
>>>>>
>>>>>It would be greate to share efforts and perhaps we can continue to
> 
> have a
> 
>>>>>discussion on our two projects and share information and ideas.
>>>>>
>>>>>Thanks!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
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>>
>>//   Christoph "Brains" Wille
>>//       MCSE, MCSD, MCP-IT, CNA
>>//
>>//   E-Mail:     christophw@alphasierrapapa.com
>>
>>
>>
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