[Mono-osx] .exe using Winforms and Monobjc/Cocoa (success)

[Andrew Brehm]

Hi, thanks for the reply.

I know the way to handle NIBs is the official way. But I wish there were an
alternative way to handle them for debugging. It's not so important. I can
live with it. :-)

What about NIB 3.x?

I will help by using Monobjc. Couldn't see the paypal button at first as I
use OmniWeb and it shields me from seeing expensive things.

Thanks,
Andrew


Laurent Etiemble wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> My comments inline.
> 
> Regards, Laurent Etiemble.
> 
> 2008/12/15 Andrew Brehm <ajbrehm at gmail.com>
> 
>>
>> My second test of Monobjc is a program (StupidWordCounter, the same
>> example
>> I
>> used for Cocoa#) that uses a NIB file or a Windows.Forms GUI depending on
>> which platform it runs on. (It checks for a directory
>> "/System/Library/Frameworks/Cocoa.framework" to determine if it is
>> running
>> on Mac OS.)
>>
>> I made a few screenshots of the development process in Visual Studio 2008
>> and Xcode 3. I'll upload them in tutorial form in the next few days and
>> give
>> the URL here.
>>
>> Remaining issues:
>>
>> 1. The path to the NIB file as used by Monobjc confuses. Apparently this
>> past must be relative to the .app bundle containing the assembly. This is
>> useful for the finished program but makes testing/debugging difficult.
> 
> 
> This is the official way to locate the NIB and Monobjc conforms to.
> 
> 
> 
>>
>>
>> 2. I still have an awful lot of platform-specific code in two classes for
>> each GUI. I wonder if there is an elegant practice for dealing with this
>> (and whether using native GUIs rather than a crossplatform GUI toolkit is
>> really the way to go).
>>
>> 3. Can Monobjc use XIB files? If yes, how? Interacting with NIB files is
>> a
>> hassle with Xcode 3, which by default wants XIB files and doesn't even
>> let
>> you create IB 2.x NIB files easily.
> 
> 
> XIB is only a development format, not a deployment one. Quoted from
> http://developer.apple.com/documentation/developertools/conceptual/IB_UserGuide/BuildingaNibFile/chapter_3_section_2.html
> :
> 
> "The xib file format was also introduced in Interface Builder 3.0 as a
> development-time format and was conceived as a way to provide tighter
> integration with your Xcode projects, particularly in the areas of SCM
> support, diff support, and refactoring. Xcode automatically converts files
> in the xib format to the nib format at build time."
> 
> If you look at the build process in XCode, you will see that the XIB file
> is
> compiled into a NIB one. Monobjc build tasks allow you to do the same.
> Check http://www.monobjc.net/index.php?page=building-tools for more
> details
> on the <ibtool/> task.
> 
> 
> 
>>
>> But all-in-all I remain very convinced that Monobjc is the greatest thing
>> since sliced .NET.
>>
>> Any chance that it become part of the default Mono distribution? Novell?
>> Buy
>> Monobjc?
> 
> 
>>
>> And if anyone from the Monobjc team reads this: is there a way I can
>> help?
>> I
>> am a bad programmer but excellent user. Can I at least donate or
>> something?
> 
> 
> You can help by simply using Monobjc. We need the users' feedback to
> refine
> the API and find bugs.
> You can also make a donation via PayPal (the button is on the download
> page).
> 
> 
>>
>>
>> Happy Holidays.
>>
>> Andrew
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