[Mono-osx] An open letter to the OS X Mono group.

Andrew Satori dru at druware.com
Tue Mar 27 09:15:13 EDT 2007


Oh Apple knows about Mono, and there is at least one senior Apple  
person that is/has been involved with Mono at various times in the  
last 2 years.

Apple is however, 100% commited to Objective C (and with Objective C  
2 they are making dramatic improvements in the usability of the  
language).  The issue is that most developers 'don't want to learn  
another language'.  Objective C is a little strange at first, but  
most who learn it seem to like it.

But...  You aren't going to pull many Windows devs over without a  
roadmap to get from C# to Apple technologies, and C# and Mono  are  
the best bridge out there.

Andy


On Mar 27, 2007, at 6:00 AM, Eoin Norris wrote:

>
> If Apple step up to the plate on mono they will, I think, be  
> pushing their own core technologies ( read : Cocoa) as well as  
> mono. i think they may be interested in some version of the  
> dumbarton project, if anything. Were mono to be the main platform  
> for development on the Mac, then the OS/AppKit team would not be in  
> a position to innovate for developers.. If you read Apple's spiel  
> on it's newest operating system releases the marketing does not  
> focus on just what is available for consumers, but what new  
> technologies are available for developers - and this is standard  
> marketing guff sold to everyone not just sold on specific developer  
> mailing lists ( the latest such technology to be touted is Core  
> Animations, a Cocoa framework for cool animations probably used in  
> the iPhone).
>
> It is a stretch to believe that they will create these technologies  
> and immediately port them to mono ( which in any case could create  
> a disconnect between the Apple mono api set and the standard api set).
>
> The API defines the OS, to a large extent. As does the UI.
>
> That said, this year's WWDC is about  getting windows developers  
> onto the Mac. I wonder if a senior representative on this list  
> could point Apple developer connection to the possibilities of   
> using mono, Cocoa#, or Dumbarton/Objective C on the Mac  . I think  
> Apple would be most amenable to promoting a mono back-end, and a  
> cocoa front-end.
>
> However, they may not be following the possibilities of mono on the  
> Mac, at all, but this is the year to push it.
>
> -- Eoin Norris
>
>
>
> On 27 Mar 2007, at 03:13, Andrew Satori wrote:
>
>>  Until a big
>> player, (and I think that player almost *has* to be Apple) steps up,
>> I don't think we'll ever get enough Mac specific resources to get
>> Mono on the Mac to be a full peer to Mono on Linux.
>
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