Apple's take on Mono? Re: [Mono-osx] OSX Reality Check

[Thomas Johansen]

I'm an ASPInsider (aspinsiders.com); ASP.NET started out good, but  
it's quickly turning into a gigantic obelisk. As always MSFT crams  
way too much crap into their products and take away too much control  
from the developer. A few of us have expressed concerns like these,  
but even with the ASPInsiders group they seem unwilling to discuss  
problems we may have with certain aspects and decisions made.
I still like ASP.NET + C#, but I do not love the combination anymore  
(started moving away from it)...

Just a few cents from my side of things.


Regards,
Thomas Johansen

On 26/10/2005, at 6:49 AM, Erik Dasque wrote:

> Actually and very interestingly, Apple very publically stepped away  
> from
> Java (the crackpipe you refer to ?). Apple has a key issue with its  
> main
> language choice and that's that no one wants to use it for many
> different reason. However they can't dilute their message and sponsor
> another language/runtime environment which explains the eventual  
> demise
> of Java on Mac OS X. However Mono is enjoying some very interesting/ 
> good
> success recently as iFolder runs on Mono, Unity as well, Apple wants
> iPrint and some others I can't speak of.
>
> Now if Apple was suddenly to wake up and their PM read their mail,
> they'd realize that Mono+ASP.NET is the killer app that their Xserve
> line is waiting for.
>
> Erik
>
> On Tue, 2005-10-25 at 13:35 -0700, Adhamh Findlay wrote:
>
>> Does Apple have a public stance on ANY development language other  
>> than
>> Obj-C?  In case you wonder about Java, read this page and search for
>> "important"
>>
>> http://developer.apple.com/documentation/Cocoa/Conceptual/ 
>> LanguageIntegratio
>> n/index.html
>>
>> Apple's not going to discourage other languages from running on OS  
>> X, but
>> people thinking that Apple's is going to endorse Mono/Java/Cobol/ 
>> Ruby/You
>> Favorit Pet Language should not hold their breath.
>>
>> As for the linux comment, I suggest you put the crack pipe  
>> down.  :-)  If OS
>> X was ever going to be linux based then it would have release on  
>> linux from
>> the get go.
>>
>> Adhamh
>>
>>
>> On 10/25/05 1:25 PM, "ted leslie" <tleslie at tcn.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Please share .... as to whats so funny? ...
>>>
>>> i would think if Apple doesn't, at least for public show, accept  
>>> Mono,
>>> it would probably be very bad for them in time?
>>> I mean if Apple dumps on it, and MONO/C# really takes off (which  
>>> it will),
>>> that would really damage them. Why would Apple bet against Mono?
>>> I express concern because I am certainly adopting Mono as my sole  
>>> development
>>> platform,
>>> and I would be pissed if Apple put up barriers against it. I'd  
>>> rather hope
>>> they would endorse it.
>>>
>>> I think OSX will eventually just be a front-end desk-top for  
>>> linux in 5-6
>>> years anyways, but
>>> thats a whole other story :)
>>>
>>> -tl
>>>
>>> On Tue, 25 Oct 2005 13:06:28 -0700
>>> Adhamh Findlay <monoosx at adhamh.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 10/25/05 12:44 PM, "Roger Mann" <rmann at digitech.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> I expect Apple will have something to say about Mono/C# at the  
>>>>> next
>>>>> WWDC.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> HAHAHA!  I have laughed that hard in a long time.  Thanks, its  
>>>> been a long
>>>> day and I needed a good laugh.
>>>>
>>>> Adhamh
>>>>
>>>>
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