[Mono-list] GTKsharp 3

Tue Sep 11 22:30:59 UTC 2012

XWT although interesting is irrelevant to the question at hand. XWT will
use GTK on linux and so will still require working GTK 3 bindings.

So can we get back to the topic, I would love answers to my questions
regarding GTK Sharp 3

Who is working on it?

Where is the code?

When should we expect a release?

Sincerely,
Daniel

On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 5:50 AM, Stifu <stifu at free.fr> wrote:

> Yes, eventually it has to use native code. But I guess the difference is
> whether the GUI toolkit is made using solely the .NET / Mono framework, or
> by shipping extra native code. Mono WinForms, as I mentioned, mostly relies
> on the framework (using System.Drawing rather than calling an extra library
> to draw on screen, for example). It still has some native calls
> (platform-specific code), so it's not 100% managed, but close enough.
>
>
> Ian Norton-Badrul-2 wrote
> >
> > How do you expect to put anything on the screen or read the mouse,
> > keyboard etc without eventually using a native toolkit :)
> >
> > XWT is very cool, not 100% working for me yet but a very good start.
> >
> > On 11/09/2012 16:34, Stifu wrote:
> >> XWT is still a set of bindings. It calls native code / GUI toolkits
> >> underneath. So that's not what he was asking for.
> >> I guess there is just not enough money / motivation behind having a
> >> fully-managed GUI toolkit. On the other hand, Mono WinForms is one,
> >> technically.
> >>
> >>
> >> Slide wrote
> >>> There is this one that is being developed https://github.com/mono/xwt
> >>> and will be the foundation of MonoDevelop in the future from what I
> >>> understand.
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 8:19 AM, 殷启聪 <seamlikok@> wrote:
> >>>> Why there's no any cross-platform GUI toolkit that's written natively
> >>>> in C#? I'm tired of using bindings. Is it possible to develop a C# GUI
> >>>> toolkit that's OpenGL accelerated (like WPF and Clutter),
> >>>> cross-platform (like wxWidgets and Qt) and uses native widgets in
> >>>> different desktop environment? Then GTK+, Qt etc. will be used as low
> >>>> level components.
> >>>> 2012/9/11 Stifu <stifu@>:
> >>>>> The most recent bit of news I've read about GTK# 3:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> http://mono.1490590.n4.nabble.com/Towards-GTK-3-0-tp4650597.html
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Daniel Hughes wrote
> >>>>>> GTK 3 was released 10 Feb 2011. That's a long time ago.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> During that time .net bindings have failed to eventuate. Information
> >>>>>> on
> >>>>>> what has been happening has been very hard to find, despite a large
> >>>>>> number
> >>>>>> of .net applications on linux using these bindings.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> As the author of an opensource application dependent on these
> >>>>>> bindings
> >>>>>> I
> >>>>>> find this lack of information very concerning. And I'm starting to
> >>>>>> ask
> >>>>>> myself questions like, Am I now dependent of a dead or dieing
> >>>>>> library?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Banshee was removed from the default ubuntu install, officially
> >>>>>> because
> >>>>>> of
> >>>>>> lack of GTK 3 support.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I have the following questions:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Where is the source code for GTK 3 support?
> >>>>>> As far as I can establish the GTK sharp code is hosted here:
> >>>>>>
> https://github.com/mono/gtk-sharp<https://github.com/mono/gtk-sharp/branches&gt
> ;
> >>>>>> However there is no branch in there labelled as GTK3
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Who supports GTK sharp?
> >>>>>> If it is community maintained, who are the main contributors?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Is there a projected or planned release date for GTK 3 support?
> >>>>>> Developers dependent on GTK sharp need this information in order to
> >>>>>> plan
> >>>>>> the future of there applications.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> If GTK sharp is really dying then application developers dependent
> on
> >>>>>> it
> >>>>>> need to know, so they can either contribute to it or move there
> >>>>>> applications on to something else.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> If the bindings are struggling, how come there has been no call
> >>>>>> for contributors, or at least transparent information about what is
> >>>>>> going
> >>>>>> on. Rather then the current back whole of information.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Recently ubuntu held an app competition, it was hugely successful
> and
> >>>>>> while
> >>>>>> it was on people where asking questions like this:
> >>>>>> http://askubuntu.com/questions/154373/use-primary-toolbar-with-mono
> >>>>>> And all we could do was advice that they use another language.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> If we lose GTK# bindings where does that leave mono on desktop
> linux?
> >>>>>> We
> >>>>>> have no QT bindings, no clutter bindings and no GTK# 3 bindings. in
> >>>>>> sort
> >>>>>> we
> >>>>>> have no bindings available (by that I mean packaged in debian or
> >>>>>> similar)
> >>>>>> for the latest version of any native linux GUI tool kit.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I'm going to say this again, mono developers cannot use the latest
> >>>>>> version
> >>>>>> of any native linux GUI tool kit.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Now maybe the GTK# bindings are alive and well and are about to
> issue
> >>>>>> a
> >>>>>> release. However if that is true then the developers have a lot of
> >>>>>> room
> >>>>>> for
> >>>>>> improvement with there communications.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Sincerely,
> >>>>>> Daniel Hughes
> >>>>>>
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