[Mono-list] GTKsharp 3

Tue Sep 11 15:53:03 UTC 2012

How far along is XWT? I'm don't mind trying out something in beta for 
fun, but I'm not smart enough to make major contributions. Is XWT far 
enough along for the average end developer to start having fun with?

On 9/11/2012 11:50 AM, Ian Norton wrote:
> How do you expect to put anything on the screen or read the mouse, 
> keyboard etc without eventually using a native toolkit :)
>
> XWT is very cool, not 100% working for me yet but a very good start.
>
> On 11/09/2012 16:34, Stifu wrote:
>> XWT is still a set of bindings. It calls native code / GUI toolkits
>> underneath. So that's not what he was asking for.
>> I guess there is just not enough money / motivation behind having a
>> fully-managed GUI toolkit. On the other hand, Mono WinForms is one,
>> technically.
>>
>>
>> Slide wrote
>>> There is this one that is being developed https://github.com/mono/xwt
>>> and will be the foundation of MonoDevelop in the future from what I
>>> understand.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 8:19 AM, 殷启聪 <seamlikok@> wrote:
>>>> Why there's no any cross-platform GUI toolkit that's written natively
>>>> in C#? I'm tired of using bindings. Is it possible to develop a C# GUI
>>>> toolkit that's OpenGL accelerated (like WPF and Clutter),
>>>> cross-platform (like wxWidgets and Qt) and uses native widgets in
>>>> different desktop environment? Then GTK+, Qt etc. will be used as low
>>>> level components.
>>>> 2012/9/11 Stifu <stifu@>:
>>>>> The most recent bit of news I've read about GTK# 3:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://mono.1490590.n4.nabble.com/Towards-GTK-3-0-tp4650597.html
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Daniel Hughes wrote
>>>>>> GTK 3 was released 10 Feb 2011. That's a long time ago.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> During that time .net bindings have failed to eventuate. 
>>>>>> Information on
>>>>>> what has been happening has been very hard to find, despite a large
>>>>>> number
>>>>>> of .net applications on linux using these bindings.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As the author of an opensource application dependent on these 
>>>>>> bindings
>>>>>> I
>>>>>> find this lack of information very concerning. And I'm starting 
>>>>>> to ask
>>>>>> myself questions like, Am I now dependent of a dead or dieing 
>>>>>> library?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Banshee was removed from the default ubuntu install, officially 
>>>>>> because
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> lack of GTK 3 support.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have the following questions:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Where is the source code for GTK 3 support?
>>>>>> As far as I can establish the GTK sharp code is hosted here:
>>>>>> https://github.com/mono/gtk-sharp<https://github.com/mono/gtk-sharp/branches> 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> However there is no branch in there labelled as GTK3
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Who supports GTK sharp?
>>>>>> If it is community maintained, who are the main contributors?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is there a projected or planned release date for GTK 3 support?
>>>>>> Developers dependent on GTK sharp need this information in order to
>>>>>> plan
>>>>>> the future of there applications.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If GTK sharp is really dying then application developers 
>>>>>> dependent on
>>>>>> it
>>>>>> need to know, so they can either contribute to it or move there
>>>>>> applications on to something else.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If the bindings are struggling, how come there has been no call
>>>>>> for contributors, or at least transparent information about what is
>>>>>> going
>>>>>> on. Rather then the current back whole of information.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Recently ubuntu held an app competition, it was hugely successful 
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> while
>>>>>> it was on people where asking questions like this:
>>>>>> http://askubuntu.com/questions/154373/use-primary-toolbar-with-mono
>>>>>> And all we could do was advice that they use another language.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If we lose GTK# bindings where does that leave mono on desktop 
>>>>>> linux?
>>>>>> We
>>>>>> have no QT bindings, no clutter bindings and no GTK# 3 bindings. in
>>>>>> sort
>>>>>> we
>>>>>> have no bindings available (by that I mean packaged in debian or
>>>>>> similar)
>>>>>> for the latest version of any native linux GUI tool kit.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm going to say this again, mono developers cannot use the latest
>>>>>> version
>>>>>> of any native linux GUI tool kit.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Now maybe the GTK# bindings are alive and well and are about to 
>>>>>> issue a
>>>>>> release. However if that is true then the developers have a lot 
>>>>>> of room
>>>>>> for
>>>>>> improvement with there communications.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>> Daniel Hughes
>>>>>>
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