[Mono-list] Mono and Real-Life

Bruce Wilkie bruce at bwilkie.com
Mon Jun 15 12:04:11 EDT 2009 

Hello Mono community.  :)

The Sims 3 makes non-trivial use of Mono.  Reading the blogs around the interwebs, you guys have already figured that out.  Most of the behavior you guys see in relation to object and Sim interactions is written in C#.

Read a bit of  http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php?story=23980 for an idea of how the first week sales went.  Go Sims 3!  Yay!

Using Mono was an interesting experience.  It can be a hard sell to management for sure, especially when a commercial license is needed, and for me, talking to lawyers is rarely fun.  I will say Mono is in a much better place now than years ago when we first started using it - you guys have already pulled the version number from the last drop of Mono we took, and you'll notice it is rather old.  :P

Good luck in your efforts TheBlueSky!

thx,
bruce



----- Original Message ----
From: TheBlueSky <eamhm07 at gmail.com>
To: mono-list at lists.ximian.com
Sent: Monday, June 8, 2009 1:19:28 AM
Subject: Re: [Mono-list] Mono and Real-Life


Thanks for the reference :)


RL wrote:
> 
> Wikipedia uses Lucene.Net + mono:
> "at first GCJ-based solution, afterwards .net Lucene port was used on top
> of
> Mono .NET framework"  (page 28)
> http://www.scribd.com/doc/43868/Wikipedia-site-internals-workbook-2007
> 
> <http://www.scribd.com/doc/43868/Wikipedia-site-internals-workbook-2007>
> http://tirania.org/blog/archive/2005/May-30.html
> <http://tirania.org/blog/archive/2005/May-30.html>
> 
> 2009/6/5 TheBlueSky <eamhm07 at gmail.com>
> 
>>
>> Thanks, I guess I'll add Unity to my references :)
>>
>> Now, anybody has an idea about:
>>
>> 1. Wikipedia
>> 2. VistaDB
>> 3. The Sims 3
>>
>>
>> Stifu wrote:
>> >
>> > I'm almost sure Unity is made with Mono (and it was originally a
>> Mac-only
>> > product before they switched to C#, and I don't think they'd have
>> switched
>> > if Mono wasn't there, since otherwise that'd mean no longer supporting
>> > Mac).
>> > Also, this is what a Unity developer posted yesterday on Miguel's blog:
>> >
>> > "The majority of C# work done at Unity Technologies are done with
>> > MonoDevelop - and yes, we want it to be good enough to be the default
>> > editor as well."
>> >
>> > http://tirania.org/blog/archive/2009/Jun-04.html
>> >
>> > Hope that helps.
>> >
>> >
>> > TheBlueSky wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Thank you for the piece you shared, I really appreciate it.
>> >>
>> >> The project I was talking about isn't that complex or huge, although
>> can
>> >> be a bit big, and based of my knowledge about Mono, I think it can fit
>> >> here (also based of my experience in .Net in general)... I'm also
>> taking
>> >> it as a chance to learn something new ;)
>> >>
>> >> Well, you're right, I had a look at Unity, but correct me if I'm
>> wrong,
>> >> isn't it of the kind that works-with-Mono, instead of built-with-Mono.
>> >> Sorry, I just don't know much about Unity, and skimming through their
>> >> website previously, didn't really help in that matter. Any reference
>> will
>> >> be very much appreciated.
>> >>
>> >> Thanks again.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Stifu wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Hello,
>> >>>
>> >>> I take it you had a look at Unity?
>> >>> And any games made with Unity therefore rely on Mono, the last
>> example
>> >>> I've heard about being that lego Star Wars game
>> >>> (http://tirania.org/blog/archive/2009/May-16.html).
>> >>>
>> >>> By the way, it's nice to push Mono in companies (I've done so too),
>> but
>> >>> in order to avoid taking risks and getting into unexpected
>> situations,
>> >>> it may be wise to first propose to try it with a little project, so
>> you
>> >>> and your colleagues can first get used to it, better understand its
>> >>> limitations, and so on... Just to be on the safe side, especially if
>> >>> your colleagues are reluctant. I don't know how big the project you
>> >>> mentioned is, though.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> TheBlueSky wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Hello everyone,
>> >>>>
>> >>>> This isn't a technical question or something, but I'm trying to
>> >>>> convince the company I'm working with to use Mono for some project
>> we
>> >>>> are doing (Linux only project). I, myself, came from strong .Net
>> >>>> background and I know what .Net is capable of, I mean in term of RAD
>> >>>> and such, however, other people around me is kind of
>> "old-fashioned",
>> >>>> and they just can't (or their minds are just not ready to) get that
>> >>>> things are changing all the time, and what was the best yesterday,
>> >>>> doesn't necessarily the best today.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> .Net has proven itself over the years, but that was all about
>> Microsoft
>> >>>> .Net and only under Windows platforms, and still when you say .Net,
>> >>>> it's associated in people minds with Microsoft and Windows, of
>> course
>> >>>> because it is, as there are relatively few people who know about
>> ECMA
>> >>>> or ISO CLI and C#, but my point is that the trend is still "on
>> Linux,
>> >>>> anything but .Net".
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Anyway, long story ;) I'm also new to Mono, and I want to dive into
>> it
>> >>>> and see how much of .Net it is and how good in Linux development it
>> is.
>> >>>> For that, I started reading about it to used it; previously I just
>> read
>> >>>> about it for curiosity, and I knew the project since the time it
>> >>>> started.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Beside all the talk about the architecture, the plan, the roadmap
>> ...
>> >>>> etc., I'm also very much interested in finding strong references to
>> >>>> Mono, i.e. real-life application (enterprise or other), something
>> that
>> >>>> shows the strength of Mono and how mature it is. I had a look at
>> >>>> http://mono-project.com/Software which was a pretty interesting
>> list,
>> >>>> with pretty good applications, however, with few exceptions, most of
>> >>>> the applications there are:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> 1. Unknown
>> >>>> 2. Just "not-a-big-deal"
>> >>>> 3. Works with Mono, in opposite to built with Mono
>> >>>> 4. I can't find a reference to Mono in
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Don't get me wrong guys, but when I'm trying to prove something, I
>> >>>> should take what the builder of the application says, not what's
>> >>>> written on Mono website.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> So, after such long speech, I want you people to help me in naming
>> >>>> real-life, well-known applications that are built with Mono and not
>> >>>> just work with it, or at least to help me find references to Mono
>> role
>> >>>> in:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> 1. Wikipedia
>> >>>> 2. VistaDB
>> >>>> 3. The Sims 3
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Sorry again for the long speach ;) and thanks in advance,
>> >>>>
>> >>>> TheBlueSky
>> >>>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
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