[Mono-list] SPAM-LOW: Re: NUnit Version - Upgrade soon?

Charlie Poole charlie at nunit.com
Tue Nov 25 14:36:06 EST 2008 

> Hello Charlie,
> 
> On Mon, 2008-11-24 at 23:38 -0800, Charlie Poole wrote:
> > I didn't know it was your archive, but if you need it then 
> it seemed 
> > to make sense that there would be some changes. If not, why 
> build it 
> > from source at all?
> > 
> > This isn't a criticism - just something I'm trying to get an 
> > understanding about. There seems to be some obstacle to 
> NUnit adoption 
> > (I don't mean obsolete versions, but up to date ones) in the Mono 
> > community and I'd like to figure out the reasons.
> 
> You simply did too well on NUnit 2.2 ;-) and no one, until 
> Atsushi, needed the features "badly" enough to update the 
> mono tree (potentially a huge task).

Ah, flattery works for sure :-)

But yes, 2.2 has all the stuff needed for the kinds of tests
Mono has - except possibly parameterized tests, which could
make writing them easier, but that doesn't come till 2.5.
 
> OTOH this might have been interpreted by other people as being the
> (only?) "supported" version - even if we have been saying, 
> for years, not to confuse the old Mono's version with the 
> latest and greatest NUnit available.

Yes, this confusion is what I'm talking about. The built-in
install appears to be "in the way" of any other installation,
unless it's a private install like the one Monodevelop provides.

Charlie

> Sebastien
> 
> > 
> > Charlie
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: mono-list-bounces at lists.ximian.com
> > > [mailto:mono-list-bounces at lists.ximian.com] On Behalf Of 
> Atsushi Eno
> > > Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 10:19 PM
> > > To: mono-list at lists.ximian.com
> > > Subject: Re: [Mono-list] SPAM-LOW: Re: NUnit Version - 
> Upgrade soon?
> > > 
> > > It is anything but negative approach. As I wrote earlier, 
> I believe 
> > > this is a mono bug that likely hits other projects and should be 
> > > fixed in mono land.
> > > 
> > > I'll try to cook a repro and file a bug.
> > > 
> > > For the record, there is almost no change in NUnit code 
> in my archive.
> > > We just have to change AssemblyInfo (assembly key 
> location), remove 
> > > tests (they are extra in our source tree) and extra stuff such as 
> > > GUI.
> > > It is straightforward upstream code. Believe or not, just 
> diff them 
> > > ;)
> > > 
> > > Atsushi Eno
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Charlie Poole wrote:
> > > > I think a more positive approach would be to work with 
> the NUnit 
> > > > project so that you can just use the upstream code.
> > > > 
> > > > Charlie
> > > > 
> > > >> -----Original Message-----
> > > >> From: mono-list-bounces at lists.ximian.com
> > > >> [mailto:mono-list-bounces at lists.ximian.com] On Behalf Of
> > > Atsushi Eno
> > > >> Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2008 4:30 PM
> > > >> To: mono-list at lists.ximian.com
> > > >> Subject: SPAM-LOW: Re: [Mono-list] NUnit Version - 
> Upgrade soon?
> > > >>
> > > >> You almost do not have to do that:
> > > >> http://veritas-vos-liberabit.com/tmp/2008/nunit24-mono.tar.bz2
> > > >>
> > > >> It builds but does not work anyways right now, 
> probably because 
> > > >> of some type resolution bugs between nunit-console.dll and 
> > > >> nunit-console.exe.
> > > >>
> > > >> If you have patch for mono (diff in mono/mcs, not diff in
> > > >> nunit) to fix any issues, that is welcome.
> > > >>
> > > >> Atsushi Eno
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> Michael Franz wrote:
> > > >>> OK,
> > > >>>
> > > >>> I thought I read somewhere that there were patches to NUnit
> > > >> that were
> > > >>> mono specific.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Is it ok to submit patches to mono that depend on the
> > > >> latest version
> > > >>> of NUnit?
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Michael
> > > >>>
> > > >>> On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 3:25 PM, Miguel de Icaza
> > > <miguel at novell.com
> > > >>> <mailto:miguel at novell.com>> wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>>     Hello,
> > > >>>
> > > >>>      > What changes to NUnit were specific to Mono?
> > > >>>      >
> > > >>>      > Is there a list of these features?
> > > >>>
> > > >>>     You are confused;   There are no changes, you should 
> > > >> just not depend on
> > > >>>     Mono's built-in and private copy of NUnit to write your
> > > >> NUnit test
> > > >>>     cases.
> > > >>>
> > > >>>     You should get the latest NUnit.
> > > >>>
> > > >>>      > On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 10:54 PM, Miguel de Icaza
> > > >>>     <miguel at novell.com <mailto:miguel at novell.com>>
> > > >>>      > wrote:
> > > >>>      >         Hello,
> > > >>>      >
> > > >>>      >
> > > >>>      >         > I use NUnit for work and have been using 
> > > >> the latest version
> > > >>>      >         for
> > > >>>      >         > months.  I wrote some test for Mono and 
> > > >> found out that the
> > > >>>      >         version
> > > >>>      >         > that Mono is using does not support some 
> > > >> of the asserts
> > > >>>     I am
> > > >>>      >         using
> > > >>>      >         > (IsEmpty).  Is there any plan to upgrade 
> > > >> the version of
> > > >>>      >         NUnit that is
> > > >>>      >         > used with the Mono build/test?
> > > >>>      >
> > > >>>      >
> > > >>>      >         The NUnit that ships with Mono should 
> be considered
> > > >>>     Mono's own
> > > >>>      >         copy of
> > > >>>      >         NUnit and not a public version of it.
> > > >>>      >
> > > >>>      >         We should probably make packages of the 
> > > >> latest version of
> > > >>>      >         NUnit,
> > > >>>      >         encourage the NUnit developer to maintain 
> > > >> those and encourage
> > > >>>      >         developers
> > > >>>      >         to use the public NUnit as opposed to the 
> > > >> private copy that
> > > >>>      >         Mono ships.
> > > >>>      >
> > > >>>      >
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >> 
> > > 
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