[Mono-list] Is Mono ready to compete with MS .NET in realbusiness?

[Shawn Vose]

Amen! To that. I love vim. I use it for all my coding needs; however, m$ 
people are going to have a hard time figuring out how to save their code.

:w

is not as intuitive as a few mouse clicks

;-)

Jonathan Stowe wrote:

>On Wed, 2004-09-29 at 15:14, Max Metral wrote:
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>>I'd have to say Mono is not ready to compete yet, but only to complement.
>>The development environments just don't seem to be there yet, mainly the
>>extreme difficulty involved in getting even a simple debugger.  Compared
>>with the relative simplicity and power of VS2003, it still is much better to
>>author in VS and run on Mono.
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>But the development environment *is* there as far as some people would
>be concerned, vim has come with C# syntax highlighting and indenting
>rules for a while now and quite frankly that is more than some people
>need.  The development environment isn't the language. The language
>(that is the compiler, the runtime environment and the libraries) is a
>tool, just as the editor you might prepare the source code in is. 
>
>I guess this divergence of viewpoints is an amusing consequence of the
>strange nexus around mono - on the one hand those coming from the MS
>side and used to the monolithic application and on the other those
>coming from the more tools oriented approach that arises in the Unix
>world.
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>>That is already a great thing, so it's not a knock on Mono or peoples'
>>efforts, but there's still work to be done.
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>But probably by others than the core mono developers.  That's the funny
>thing about open source projects - people tend to concentrate on the
>things that they think are important. I generally find that if one
>disagrees with those priorities then the best way to sort it out is by
>supplying some code oneself.
>
>/J\
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>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: mono-list-admin@lists.ximian.com
>>[mailto:mono-list-admin@lists.ximian.com] On Behalf Of PFJ
>>Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2004 4:55 AM
>>To: mono
>>Subject: Re: [Mono-list] Is Mono ready to compete with MS .NET in
>>realbusiness?
>>
>>Hi,
>>
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>>>Mono 1.0 was shipped awhile ago, and I'm really excited
>>>about that... but now the natural question is:
>>>
>>>  "Is Mono ready to compete with MS .NET in real business?"
>>>      
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>>Depends on the context. For winforms, no. 1.2 will have that and it
>>should rock.
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>>>... and one more question is
>>>
>>>  "Will Novell provide support, documentation, etc.?"
>>>  "If yes, by when?"
>>>      
>>>
>>monodoc already has the documentation. As C# is already a standardised
>>language, whatever is in the ECMA standard or the MS documentation
>>should follow.
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>>>Behind MS .NET there is a huge development team,
>>>support, documentation, and continuity... and I
>>>think Novell should offer the same, but till now
>>>I don't see anything in that way.
>>>      
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>>There is with Mono. The big difference is that (I would guess) the
>>majority of those working on Mono aren't on the Novell payroll - it's
>>the biggest difference between Open and Closed source. Take OpenOffice,
>>there are well over 200 people actively working on it, yet only about 15
>>work for Sun!
>>
>>TTFN
>>
>>Paul
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