[Mono-list] Is Mono ready to compete with MS .NET in realbusiness?

Jonathan Stowe jns@gellyfish.com
Fri, 01 Oct 2004 10:38:07 +0100

On Thu, 2004-09-30 at 23:22, Radu Popescu wrote:
> On Thu, 30 Sep 2004 13:47:50 -0400, Shawn Vose
> <mono@programmerforrent.com> wrote:
> > Amen! To that. I love vim. I use it for all my coding needs; however, m$
> > people are going to have a hard time figuring out how to save their code.
> > 
> > :w
> > 
> > is not as intuitive as a few mouse clicks
> > 
> > ;-)
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Jonathan Stowe wrote:
> > 
> Vim is *not* a development environment.

No it may not be, but, combined with the set of tools I have available
on my computer, it is part of one.

> Emacs with ECB and semantic, for Java & C[++] comes quite close though.
> Auto-completion and "quick apidoc" together with refactoring boost
> development speed considerably, and these are de facto standards of
> any modern IDE. 

The key word here is the 'Integrated' in IDE - IDE is not synonymous
with 'Development Environment' and this is precisely the point that I
was trying to make - there is always going to be a divergence of opinion
between those who believe that development is best done using a single
monolithic application and those who would rather use a carefully chosen
set of individual tools.

> It's a fact, and although some 4-5 years ago comparing
> :w or CxCs with mouse clicks was funny, now it's simply ridiculous.
> Take a look around, everything is moving towards that direction, from
> big (all Java IDEs, VS, SlickEdit) to small (kdevelop, anjuta, emacs +
> xrefactory,ecb etc.).

*Shrug* I don't know about anyone else but I find that I can't write
code with a mouse and I find it really annoying to have to take my hands
away from the keyboard in order to perform some basic operation.  Of
course this would suggest that the human anatomy is not complete and
won't be ready for the big time until we have evolved a third hand with
which to operate a mouse :-)


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