[Mono-list] missing "native feel" ?

[Thomas R. Corbin]

On Thu, 2004-07-15 at 14:09, MET wrote:
> On Thu, 2004-07-15 at 13:38, Thomas R. Corbin wrote:
> > On Thu, 2004-07-15 at 13:34, Andrew Arnott wrote:
> > > > >  > That is, what I mean, with best integration in the system, so
> > > > >  > that there
> > > > >  > existing a native-feeling by using .net-programs.
> > > > >  >
> > > > >
> > > > > The problem with giving it a "native" feel is that it destroys one of
> > > > the
> > > > > objectives of Mono...to be able to take a .Net program from Windows and
> > > > > "just run it".
> > > > 
> > > > Why so? You can make mono to understand two different (binary) formats:
> > > > the MS one and the Mono native one. So, MS compiled programs would run
> > > > fine under mono...
> > > > 
> > > > But the reverse would not be true. So, the mono would need to compile
> > > > into two different formats: mono native and MS compatible.
> > > > 
> > > > The format differences could be minimal (like few additional bytes at
> > > > the start of file)
> > > 
> > > But the spirit of the CLI is to have exactly one run anywhere.  Why would we
> > > want to segregate formats?  Only (perhaps) to push the Linux agenda forward
> > > by releasing software that runs only on Free Software (mono for windows and
> > > linux).  It's true Microsoft is influencing Linux in this way by putting
> > > .exe and .dll back into the lives of Linux users, but I don't see that as a
> > > bad thing.  
> > > 
> > > Perl scripts end with .pl.  Java classes end in .class.  CLI programs end in
> > 
> > 	Perl scripts, python scripts, bash scripts that I execute do not have a
> > .pl, .py, or .sh extension.
> > 
> > 	As for java, I wrap all the java programs with a shell or batch file to
> > make it easier on my users.  For that matter, all the commercial java
> > applications that I use do so as well.
> > 
> > > .exe or .dll, depending on their executability.  My position is, Linux isn't
> > > being betrayed or tainted by keeping .exe and .dll's.  It's actually
> > > consistent because file types typically have unique extensions, and a .so is
> > > very different from a .dll.  
> > 
> > 	For me, the .dll is fine, it's the .exe.
> 
> ... then WRAP it like everything else.

	I will - but isn't one reason to use computers is to get stuff
automated, to make our life easier?  It would be nice if every
programmer out there didn't have to do this by hand.