[Mono-list] .NET patent ?
Scott Blomfield
Scott.Blomfield@cavalryinvestments.com
Mon, 3 Mar 2003 08:49:17 -0600
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Please see http://www.go-mono.com/faq.html#patents for more information
regarding mono and patents; It should adequately answer your questions.
Discussion of this topic is generally discouraged on this list; the same
old arguments go back and forth, and no new information is ever
presented. (I.e. it's a bunch of people saying "I am not a lawyer,
but...". Of course, if anyone has spoken to their patent attorney and
has some new insight because of this, then this would be the correct
place to post it.
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HTH,
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Scott
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In case I am not quite correct/clear, let me post a link to Miguel's
take on the situation, which expresses roughly the same sentiments:
http://lists.ximian.com/archives/public/mono-list/2003-February/012170.h
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-----Original Message-----
From: Amien Crombie [mailto:amien@tlabs.ac.za]=20
Sent: Monday, March 03, 2003 5:37 AM
To: mono-list@ximian.com
Subject: [Mono-list] .NET patent ?
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Hi
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I am very interested in the Mono project as we have a large Linux user
base.
With the news of MS taking out patent rights for .NET, will this in any
way effect the progress of Mono ?
This also raises the question about future moves by MS in this regard.
My personal feeling is that since Mono has done so much already, mono
users will definitely have to make some decisions, even if it means
paying some license fee.
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Thanks for a great product.
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Please see <a
href=3D"http://www.go-mono.com/faq.html#patents">http://www.go-mono.com/f=
aq.html#patents</a>
for more information regarding mono and patents; It should adequately =
answer
your questions.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Discussion of this topic is =
generally
discouraged on this list; the same old arguments go back and forth, and =
no new
information is ever presented. (I.e. it’s a bunch of people saying =
“I
am not a lawyer, but…”. Of course, if anyone has spoken to =
their
patent attorney and has some new insight because of this, then this =
would be
the correct place to post it.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>HTH,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>In case I am not quite =
correct/clear, let
me post a link to Miguel’s take on the situation, which expresses =
roughly
the same sentiments:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><a
href=3D"http://lists.ximian.com/archives/public/mono-list/2003-February/0=
12170.html">http://lists.ximian.com/archives/public/mono-list/2003-Februa=
ry/012170.html</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> Amien Crombie
[mailto:amien@tlabs.ac.za] <br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Monday, March 03, =
2003 5:37
AM<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> =
mono-list@ximian.com<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [Mono-list] .NET =
patent ?</span></font></p>
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style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Hi<o:p></o:p></span></font><=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>I am very interested in the =
Mono
project as we have a large Linux user base.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>With the news of MS taking =
out
patent rights for .NET, will this in any way effect the progress of Mono =
?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>This also raises the =
question about
future moves by MS in this regard.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>My personal feeling is that =
since
Mono has done so much already, mono users will definitely have to make =
some
decisions, even if it means paying some license =
fee.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 =
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