[Mono-list] someone, please clear out that patents issue

Piers Haken piersh@friskit.com
Thu, 13 Feb 2003 01:26:51 -0800


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I agree. I'm sure that some of the developers and architechts of .NET at
Microsoft feel some pride that their work is followed. Not least by a
group so well lead a this. Ximian has shown extreme maturity in adopting
a technology from across the 'Free Software' divide. They have certainly
taken a lot of heat for doing so.

I'm only surprised that we haven't seen more participation in this list
by Microsoft people. There's been much less interest (possibly 1/100th)
on the 'Rotor' mailing lists. I'm sure there are some of you guys
lurking out there somewhere...

Piers.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gabriel & Emily [mailto:GabeEmilyBin@hotmail.com]=20
> Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 7:28 PM
> To: mono-list@ximian.com
> Subject: Re: [Mono-list] someone, please clear out that patents issue
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> I don't understand all the legal crap.  All I know is that=20
> mono is going to rock.  Miguel and the gang - keep up the=20
> GREAT work!!!
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> Gabriel
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Miguel de Icaza" <miguel@ximian.com>
> To: "Artur Brodowski" <bzdurqa@wp.pl>
> Cc: <mono-list@ximian.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 2:33 PM
> Subject: Re: [Mono-list] someone, please clear out that patents issue
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> > Hello,
> >
> > >   i'd like to ask someone from Mono headquarter ;) to=20
> clear out .Net=20
> > > patent issue. i've noticed that since info about Microsoft's=20
> > > application showed up, mono-list and mono-cvs-list fell=20
> silent all=20
> > > of the sudden. are the developers holding up their work?=20
> i hope that=20
> > > i'm not nagging, but is there any (sub)official Ximian's=20
> opinion on=20
> > > Mono's future? may we hear/read it?
> >
> > This does not change our plans.  You can read the FAQ, and=20
> look at the=20
> > question of how we will deal with patents that can not be=20
> used by free=20
> > software.
> >
> > I personally did not want to get involved with the debate, because=20
> > most of it was from miss-informed opinions.  The original ZDnet=20
> > article ahs a few quotes from people who looked at the caption and=20
> > made a blank statement, so there is nothing really new in the=20
> > discussion.
> >
> > Miguel.
> > _______________________________________________
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> > http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-list
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>I agree. I'm sure that some of the developers and =
architechts of .NET at Microsoft feel some pride that their work is =
followed. Not least by a group so well lead a this. Ximian has shown =
extreme maturity in adopting a technology from across the 'Free =
Software' divide. They have certainly taken a lot of heat for doing =
so.</FONT></P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>I'm only surprised that we haven't seen more =
participation in this list by Microsoft people. There's been much less =
interest (possibly 1/100th) on the 'Rotor' mailing lists. I'm sure there =
are some of you guys lurking out there somewhere...</FONT></P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Piers.</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; -----Original Message-----</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; From: Gabriel &amp; Emily [<A =
HREF=3D"mailto:GabeEmilyBin@hotmail.com">mailto:GabeEmilyBin@hotmail.com<=
/A>] </FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 7:28 =
PM</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; To: mono-list@ximian.com</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Subject: Re: [Mono-list] someone, please clear =
out that patents issue</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; I don't understand all the legal crap.&nbsp; All =
I know is that </FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; mono is going to rock.&nbsp; Miguel and the gang =
- keep up the </FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; GREAT work!!!</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Gabriel</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; ----- Original Message -----</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; From: &quot;Miguel de Icaza&quot; =
&lt;miguel@ximian.com&gt;</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; To: &quot;Artur Brodowski&quot; =
&lt;bzdurqa@wp.pl&gt;</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Cc: &lt;mono-list@ximian.com&gt;</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 2:33 =
PM</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Subject: Re: [Mono-list] someone, please clear =
out that patents issue</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; Hello,</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt;</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; i'd like to ask someone =
from Mono headquarter ;) to </FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; clear out .Net </FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; &gt; patent issue. i've noticed that since =
info about Microsoft's </FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; &gt; application showed up, mono-list and =
mono-cvs-list fell </FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; silent all </FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; &gt; of the sudden. are the developers =
holding up their work? </FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; i hope that </FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; &gt; i'm not nagging, but is there any =
(sub)official Ximian's </FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; opinion on </FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; &gt; Mono's future? may we hear/read =
it?</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt;</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; This does not change our plans.&nbsp; You =
can read the FAQ, and </FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; look at the </FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; question of how we will deal with patents =
that can not be </FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; used by free </FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; software.</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt;</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; I personally did not want to get involved =
with the debate, because </FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; most of it was from miss-informed =
opinions.&nbsp; The original ZDnet </FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; article ahs a few quotes from people who =
looked at the caption and </FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; made a blank statement, so there is nothing =
really new in the </FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; discussion.</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt;</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; Miguel.</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; =
_______________________________________________</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; Mono-list maillist&nbsp; -&nbsp; =
Mono-list@lists.ximian.com </FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; <A =
HREF=3D"http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-list">http://lists.=
ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-list</A></FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt;</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; =
_______________________________________________</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Mono-list maillist&nbsp; -&nbsp; =
Mono-list@lists.ximian.com </FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; <A =
HREF=3D"http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-list">http://lists.=
ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-list</A></FONT>

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