[Mono-list] For those fed up with Windows forms, don't read!

[fssc]

Tom, I'm don't think we should purse this topic any further, we're from two
completely different worlds by the looks of it and we will never agree on
this.

> No decent programmer stores the only copy of his data in the UI
> controls.
>
> ::Tum

That's a bit rude I think and quite insulting to a lot of people, not
everyone is as clever as you are.

>if joe-wannabes programmers can't understand the "complex" idea of OO they
>shouldn't be using .NET or Mono.

That's is ever so slightly elitist, Java people talk a lot like that. So
your little sign off "OO, Naxi for the day' wasn't a joke after all. Are you
saying that people who don't know how cars work shouldn't drive?

Don't answer the question, I don't want to know what you think, nothing
personal, it's just that we're not going to get anywhere by discussing it.

signing off on this one.
H

----- Original Message -----
From: "Tum" <tum@veridicus.com>
To: "'Rodrigo Moya'" <rodrigo@ximian.com>
Cc: "'fssc'" <hsauro@fssc.demon.co.uk>; "'Mono List'" <mono-list@ximian.com>
Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2002 8:44 AM
Subject: RE: [Mono-list] Windows Forms...wah


> Exactly.  MVC doesn't increase complexity, reduces memory consumption
> and is more flexible.  .NET and Mono are at heart OO based and if
> joe-wannabes programmers can't understand the "complex" idea of OO they
> shouldn't be using .NET or Mono.
>
> ::Tum
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: mono-list-admin@ximian.com [mailto:mono-list-admin@ximian.com]
> On
> > Behalf Of Rodrigo Moya
> > Sent: Saturday, 21 September 2002 10:03 p.m.
> > To: Tum
> > Cc: 'fssc'; Mono List
> > Subject: RE: [Mono-list] Windows Forms...wah
> >
> > On Sat, 2002-09-21 at 05:46, Tum wrote:
> > >
> > > I think you will lose developers if you don't follow MVC.  You can
> > > easily write default models that copy the old school way of doing
> > > things.  Not using MVC will confine mono (not the other way round).
> > >
> > completely agreed. Let's not do things easy for the
> > joe-wannabe-programmers of the world, let's do things easy for
> > newcomers, but powerful for experts, and not using MVC, given that
> it's
> > been demonstrated by Tum that things are not more difficult, would be
> a
> > loss for Mono.
> >
> > cheers
> > --
> > Rodrigo Moya <rodrigo@ximian.com>
> >
> >
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