[Mono-list] Windows Forms...wah

fssc hsauro@fssc.demon.co.uk
Fri, 20 Sep 2002 20:56:59 -0700


Dear Tom, I have used the explicit form of MVC many times, but only when it
is necesaary. I manage some large gui intensive graphical design
applications so I know very well the MVC model and I use it when I need to.
If it's any consolation I have Gamma's pattern book in front of me on my
self, a very well organised and written book, a must read for any budding
comp sci student.

I think we come from two different worlds and we'll just have to agree to
diagree on this. I still don't think you see my point, perhaps it's because
I didn't explain it well. But enough on this topic, I'm sure everyone is
getting quite bored of it.

H

----- Original Message -----
From: "Tum" <tum@veridicus.com>
To: "'fssc'" <hsauro@fssc.demon.co.uk>; "'mono-list'" <mono-list@ximian.com>
Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2002 8:39 AM
Subject: RE: [Mono-list] Windows Forms...wah


> I'm glad you *finally* agree.  We should use an MVC model to decrease
> complexity and memory usage in large projects (the ones with over 100
> forms).
>
> >:D
>
> Seriously fssc, you'll find that MVC reduces the amount of code you have
> to write.  Especially in large projects.  It is only in the most TRIVIAL
> cases where MVC contains a *wee* bit more code.
>
> Give it a go...seriously.
>
> ::Tum
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: mono-list-admin@ximian.com [mailto:mono-list-admin@ximian.com]
> On
> > Behalf Of fssc
> > Sent: Saturday, 21 September 2002 2:34 p.m.
> > To: mono-list
> > Subject: Re: [Mono-list] Windows Forms...wah
> >
> >
> > When your working on a large project with maybe a 100 forms, any way
> to
> > lighten the load is a blessing especially when there is the entire
> back-
> > end
> > logic to do aswell. Perhaps it's because we come from two different
> world,
> > I'm a windows programer and I've only tinckered with Linux. I admit
> I'm
> > not
> > a purest when it comes to getting things done, sure one tries one's
> best
> > to
> > follow people's percetions of best practice, but when you're in the
> thick
> > of
> > it it is not always possible.
> >
> > H
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "BioChem333" <biochem333@nyc.rr.com>
> > To: "Mono-list" <Mono-list@ximian.com>
> > Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2002 2:20 AM
> > Subject: RE: [Mono-list] Windows Forms...wah
> >
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I'd have to agree here with Tum; MVC is much better than non-MVC.
> > > Separating UI from data allows for a great deal of flexibility with
> a
> > > barely noticeable increase in complexity. One advantage that hasn't
> been
> > > mentioned is the ability to create both console and graphical UIs
> > > without rewriting large portions of the program; just plug the data
> into
> > > the UI, and it just works.
> > >
> > >
> > > Rich
> > >
> > >
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