[Mono-list] Platforms Mono will support?

Sat, 14 Sep 2002 17:43:07 +0200

Hi, everybody!

Now, with a windows/linux port, mono covers 95% of the desktop, or more.
If a PPC/MacOS port can be added, mono has 99%.

I don't know, what's the most popular architecture (x86, or SPARC??) is on
the server, but Linux and Windows cover again 75% or more.

Johannes

----- Original Message -----
From: "code" <code@263.net>
To: <mono-list@ximian.com>
Sent: Saturday, September 14, 2002 5:20 PM
Subject: RE: [Mono-list] Platforms Mono will support?

>
> I don't think having a VB.NET compiler has more significance than making
> mono run on more platform.
>
> Mono already has a compiler, if we have two, it doesn't see much
> difference. In the worst situation, we could compile VB.NET code under
> MS VS.NET, and run it in mono, isn't it?
>
> However, if mono could run on more platform, it mould be very different.
> Image your code could run on most platform, that is more exciting than
> that you could write a program in another language, especially under the
> condition that MS has already finished this work!
>
> I personally think mono should focus on the most fundamental problems.
>
> At last mono will have a VB.NET compiler, but I think mono has more
> important things to do at this time.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: mono-list-admin@ximian.com
> > [mailto:mono-list-admin@ximian.com] On Behalf Of debackerl@etive.com
> > Sent: Saturday, September 14, 2002 9:29 PM
> > To: mono-list@ximian.com
> > Subject: RE: [Mono-list] Platforms Mono will support?
> >
> >
> > Make Mono compatible with many platforms or compatible with
> > almost every NET Program, that's the question.
> >
> > Somes said it's hard to move from VB6 to VB.NET, I don't
> > think so. I've done it. But, moving from VB6 to C# is harder.
> >
> > As Microsoft told at
> > http://msdn.microsoft.com/msdnnews/2001/may/RAD/RAD.asp
> > "Visual Basic NET will establish a new standard in rapid
> > application development for highly distributed Web Services
> > and applications. While preserving the essence of Visual
> > Basic and providing the best desktop application development
> > experience for Visual Basic-based developers"
> >
> > I agree that coding in C# is a better idea. However, if you
> > need to make a very long or complex program, you'll prefer to
> > make it faster using VB.NET.
> >
> > Making a VB.NET compiler is actually optional, but the VB.NET
> > run-times could be great.
> >
> > However, if you make the VB Compiler, remember that many people will
> >
> > Have a nice day,
> > Laurent.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: mono-list-admin@ximian.com
> > [mailto:mono-list-admin@ximian.com] On Behalf Of Rowland Gosling
> > Sent: Saturday, September 14, 2002 7:45 AM
> > To: 'code'; 'Miguel de Icaza'
> > Cc: 'mono-list'
> > Subject: RE: [Mono-list] Platforms Mono will support?
> >
> > As a current VB programmer, here are my thoughts:
> > I've made a good living writing some decent code ala the
> > Windows DNA Architecture (COM N-Tier etc). I started out
> > programming under Unix in the early 80's. Shell scripts,Awk,
> > and ANSI C begat xBASE (dBASE, Clipper, FoxBase/FoxPro/Visual
> > FoxPro) and ultimately VB.
> >
> > I'm not sure where you're getting the "The most existing VB
> > code is at the client side..." statistic, but I haven't
> > written a true Client/Server solution in a very long time.
> > You might be right...but who knows?
> >
> > I'm also a VB programmer who loves *nix and runs SuSe 8.0 and
> > RedHat 7.3 on a couple of machines around here. My interest
> > in this thread is simple: I'm retooling (again..sigh..) In
> > fact, I'm sick of the technology treadmill and have decided
> > to opt for more permanent tools. Right now I juggle VB, ASP,
> > JavaScript, Oracle PL/SQL, MS T-SQL, XML/XSL.
> >
> > To that end, C# and Java are my choices of languages on which
> > I'm about to invest in more training, books, and screen time.
> > I'm NOT planning a transition to VB.NET. There is not enough
> > similarity to VB6 to make the investment worthwhile..at least
> > for now. As is often the case, that could change given the
> > need on a project..
> >
> > I will be steering future projects to C#.
> >
> >
> > Best Regards,
> >
> > Rowland Gosling
> > Senior Architect/Developer
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: mono-list-admin@ximian.com [mailto:mono-list-admin@ximian.com]On
> > Behalf Of code
> > Sent: Friday, September 13, 2002 11:17 PM
> > To: 'Miguel de Icaza'
> > Cc: 'mono-list'
> > Subject: RE: [Mono-list] Platforms Mono will support?
> >
> >
> >
> > My vote is for Tru64 or Sun Solaris(or other main Unix platform).
> >
> > The first problem is VB.NET itself. Yes, there are a lot of
> > VB code now. However, converting VB6 code to VB.NET is not
> > that easy. So the supporting of VB.NET isn't that great.
> >
> > The most existing VB code is at the client side, and the work
> > of supporting of Unix platform is mainly on server side. .NET
> > itself is focusing on server side more than previous MS
> > platforms does. I don't think MS will support VB or VB.NET
> > enthusiastically, especially that now there is C#, that is
> > much easier to learn than C++.
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Miguel de Icaza [mailto:miguel@ximian.com]
> > > Sent: Saturday, September 14, 2002 4:27 AM
> > > To: code
> > > Cc: 'mono-list'
> > > Subject: Re: [Mono-list] Platforms Mono will support?
> > >
> > >
> > > Hello!
> > >
> > > > Is there any plan to port mono to commercial Unix platform
> > > such as HP
> > > > Tru64, Sun Solaris?
> > >
> > > Ximian is committed to build at least the Linux/x86 JIT engine, and
> > > help others in porting to other systems. Currently am
> > trying to find
> > > out how we should allocate resources on the Mono team, and
> > it would be
> > > useful to know what people actually need.
> > >
> > > I understand that some people might find Tru64 JIT support
> > useful, but
> > > maybe VB.NET would benefit more people.
> > >
> > > That being said, if your company is interested in hiring Ximian to
> > > support your favorite platform, we are interested in knowing about
> > > this.
> > >
> > > I should probably write a poll or something.
> > >
> > > Miguel
> > >
> >
> >
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