[Mono-list] Platforms Mono will support?

code code@263.net
Sat, 14 Sep 2002 23:20:09 +0800


I don't think having a VB.NET compiler has more significance than making
mono run on more platform.

Mono already has a compiler, if we have two, it doesn't see much
difference. In the worst situation, we could compile VB.NET code under
MS VS.NET, and run it in mono, isn't it? 

However, if mono could run on more platform, it mould be very different.
Image your code could run on most platform, that is more exciting than
that you could write a program in another language, especially under the
condition that MS has already finished this work!

I personally think mono should focus on the most fundamental problems.

At last mono will have a VB.NET compiler, but I think mono has more
important things to do at this time.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: mono-list-admin@ximian.com 
> [mailto:mono-list-admin@ximian.com] On Behalf Of debackerl@etive.com
> Sent: Saturday, September 14, 2002 9:29 PM
> To: mono-list@ximian.com
> Subject: RE: [Mono-list] Platforms Mono will support?
> 
> 
> Make Mono compatible with many platforms or compatible with 
> almost every NET Program, that's the question.
> 
> Somes said it's hard to move from VB6 to VB.NET, I don't 
> think so. I've done it. But, moving from VB6 to C# is harder.
> 
> As Microsoft told at 
> http://msdn.microsoft.com/msdnnews/2001/may/RAD/RAD.asp 
> "Visual Basic NET will establish a new standard in rapid 
> application development for highly distributed Web Services 
> and applications. While preserving the essence of Visual 
> Basic and providing the best desktop application development 
> experience for Visual Basic-based developers"
> 
> I agree that coding in C# is a better idea. However, if you 
> need to make a very long or complex program, you'll prefer to 
> make it faster using VB.NET.
> 
> Making a VB.NET compiler is actually optional, but the VB.NET 
> run-times could be great.
> 
> However, if you make the VB Compiler, remember that many people will 
> 
> Have a nice day,
> Laurent.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: mono-list-admin@ximian.com 
> [mailto:mono-list-admin@ximian.com] On Behalf Of Rowland Gosling
> Sent: Saturday, September 14, 2002 7:45 AM
> To: 'code'; 'Miguel de Icaza'
> Cc: 'mono-list'
> Subject: RE: [Mono-list] Platforms Mono will support?
> 
> As a current VB programmer, here are my thoughts:
> I've made a good living writing some decent code ala the 
> Windows DNA Architecture (COM N-Tier etc). I started out 
> programming under Unix in the early 80's. Shell scripts,Awk, 
> and ANSI C begat xBASE (dBASE, Clipper, FoxBase/FoxPro/Visual 
> FoxPro) and ultimately VB.
> 
> I'm not sure where you're getting the "The most existing VB 
> code is at the client side..." statistic, but I haven't 
> written a true Client/Server solution in a very long time. 
> You might be right...but who knows?
> 
> I'm also a VB programmer who loves *nix and runs SuSe 8.0 and 
> RedHat 7.3 on a couple of machines around here. My interest 
> in this thread is simple: I'm retooling (again..sigh..) In 
> fact, I'm sick of the technology treadmill and have decided 
> to opt for more permanent tools. Right now I juggle VB, ASP, 
> JavaScript, Oracle PL/SQL, MS T-SQL, XML/XSL.
> 
> To that end, C# and Java are my choices of languages on which 
> I'm about to invest in more training, books, and screen time. 
> I'm NOT planning a transition to VB.NET. There is not enough 
> similarity to VB6 to make the investment worthwhile..at least 
> for now. As is often the case, that could change given the 
> need on a project..
> 
> I will be steering future projects to C#.
> 
> 
> Best Regards,
> 
> Rowland Gosling
> Senior Architect/Developer
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: mono-list-admin@ximian.com [mailto:mono-list-admin@ximian.com]On
> Behalf Of code
> Sent: Friday, September 13, 2002 11:17 PM
> To: 'Miguel de Icaza'
> Cc: 'mono-list'
> Subject: RE: [Mono-list] Platforms Mono will support?
> 
> 
> 
> My vote is for Tru64 or Sun Solaris(or other main Unix platform).
> 
> The first problem is VB.NET itself. Yes, there are a lot of 
> VB code now. However, converting VB6 code to VB.NET is not 
> that easy. So the supporting of VB.NET isn't that great.
> 
> The most existing VB code is at the client side, and the work 
> of supporting of Unix platform is mainly on server side. .NET 
> itself is focusing on server side more than previous MS 
> platforms does. I don't think MS will support VB or VB.NET 
> enthusiastically, especially that now there is C#, that is 
> much easier to learn than C++.
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Miguel de Icaza [mailto:miguel@ximian.com]
> > Sent: Saturday, September 14, 2002 4:27 AM
> > To: code
> > Cc: 'mono-list'
> > Subject: Re: [Mono-list] Platforms Mono will support?
> >
> >
> > Hello!
> >
> > > Is there any plan to port mono to commercial Unix platform
> > such as HP
> > > Tru64, Sun Solaris?
> >
> > Ximian is committed to build at least the Linux/x86 JIT engine, and 
> > help others in porting to other systems. Currently am 
> trying to find 
> > out how we should allocate resources on the Mono team, and 
> it would be 
> > useful to know what people actually need.
> >
> > I understand that some people might find Tru64 JIT support 
> useful, but 
> > maybe VB.NET would benefit more people.
> >
> > That being said, if your company is interested in hiring Ximian to 
> > support your favorite platform, we are interested in knowing about 
> > this.
> >
> > I should probably write a poll or something.
> >
> > Miguel
> >
> 
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