[Mono-list] .NET 'trounces' Java

Steve Mentzer steve.mentzer@mullinconsulting.com
Thu, 31 Oct 2002 11:01:25 -0800
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You know the old saying..
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"There are lies, damned lies and benchmarks".
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I am not saying that the results aren't accurate, but people need to =
realize that there is no "silver bullet" in software development. No one =
platform is perfect for any situation. The Java advocates are already =
jumping all over this in a vain attempt to discredit the results when =
what they should be doing is constructing their own test suites that =
highlight the strengths of Java.=20
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I personally believe that Java is the pascal of the 21st century. But =
then again, that is just my opinion. Great for a teaching language, but =
a little purist for my day-to-day needs. c# certainly isn't perfect. And =
the entire .net framework is strikingly similar to the java namespaces.
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Above everything else, software development is still a human and largely =
manual process. A clueless moron can take their program, throw it =
through the best compiler, run it on the fastest computer in existence =
and still get crappy results.
=20
Programmer competence carries much more weight than "raw platform" speed =
in my book.
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-----Original Message-----
From: G.Kumaraguru [mailto:kums@gmx.net]
Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 10:30 AM
To: mono-list@ximian.com
Subject: [Mono-list] .NET 'trounces' Java


http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/27833.html
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.NET significantly outperformed the J2EE version on 2,4 and 8-way =
machines on all three suites: the web benchmarks, TP and web services. =
In one case, the J2EE Pet Store couldn't handle the transactions at all.
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are lies, damned lies and benchmarks".</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
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size=3D2>I am=20
not saying that the results aren't accurate, but people need to realize =
that=20
there is no "silver bullet" in software development. No one platform is =
perfect=20
for any situation. The Java advocates are already jumping all over this =
in a=20
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class=3D926575418-31102002><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
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be doing is constructing their own test suites that highlight the =
strengths of=20
Java. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D926575418-31102002><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =

size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D926575418-31102002><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2>I=20
personally believe that Java is the pascal of the 21st century. But then =
again,=20
that is just my opinion. Great for a teaching language, but a little =
purist for=20
my day-to-day needs. c# certainly isn't perfect. And the entire .net =
framework=20
is strikingly similar to the java namespaces.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D926575418-31102002><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =

size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D926575418-31102002><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2>Above=20
everything else, software development is still a human and largely =
manual=20
process. A clueless moron can take their program, throw it through the =
best=20
compiler, run it on the fastest computer in existence and still get =
crappy=20
results.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D926575418-31102002><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =

size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D926575418-31102002><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =

size=3D2>Programmer competence carries much more weight than "raw =
platform" speed=20
in my book.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D926575418-31102002></SPAN><SPAN =
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