[Mono-list] NET using Java VMs and libs
Wed, 27 Mar 2002 11:41:34 +0000
This is untrue.
Any language can be targeted to the Java JVM bytecode, just as they can be
compiled to the .NET CLR. There's something like 30 languages that you can
use with the Java platform at the moment, I think JPython is the most
Also lots of academics use the Java platform as a target for experimental
languages, compilers etc.
Of course, Sun hasn't *marketed* the Java platform for use in this way, but
technically it's entirely feasible.
At 13:11 26/03/2002 +0100, mnapoli wrote:
>The only problem of the Java platform is that you are linked only to one
>And I am a java developper...
>What's very good in Ms'idea and what mono is all about, is that you could
>target any platform using any language...
>So nothing about Ms vs Sun...
>Just being able to use any language on any platform.
>I am looking into C# and the .Net platform and of course to mono...
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Niels Peter Strandberg" <firstname.lastname@example.org>
>Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 12:57 PM
>Subject: Re: [Mono-list] NET using Java VMs and libs
> > > Despite any implementation obstacles, Mono is much less encumbered than
> > > a .NET-in-Java implementation can be; I don't understand why people
> > > consider Sun some kind of benevolent dictator and Microsoft the Evil
> > > Empire (tm).
> > Microsoft is "the evil Empire"! ;-)
> > This is not about Sun vs Microsoft. This is not about Microsoft. . This
> > is about not need to own the latest windows, or window att all. Isn't
> > that what mono is all about, when they want mono to run on linux?
> > If NET "is so good!" then it should excises on other platforms, and
> > since there is a Java VM for almost every platform, then running NET on
> > that would be great. Not because it is SUN and because MS "is the evil
> > empire!" It will simply make good sense!
> > It is very hard to discuss this with some people, because all they can
> > or "want to know" is Windows. They have invested maybe 1000-10.000 of
> > hours on learning to do window programming, then it is very hard to
> > start looking outside windows. But there is a beautyful world outside
> > MS, full of wonderful OS'es.
> > Java is a billion dollar industry. You have Application Servers, costing
> > 10.000 of dollars, running hardware costing 100.000 dollars. So Java is
> > not "the next greatest after NET". NET is still a baby compared to Java.
> > Just because it dos not come from MS, dos not mean that it is bad!
> > So this should not be a discussion on "who is best", but how to make NET
> > run on other platforms, and I think "with my limited knowledge of NET"
> > that Java would be a good place to start the discussion.
> > C++ is an option, but is is not as easy to port to other platforms as
> > Java.
> > I myself runs Win, Linux and Mac OS X. The win is only for games!
> > Niels Peter
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