[Mono-list] FYI : Mono on the MSDN site

[Francisco Jr.]

 --- James Michael DuPont <mdupont777@yahoo.com>
escreveu: 
> I wonder what the brazilian developers has to say
> about this? 
> Mike

> --- "Eagle ( Brandon Holtsclaw )" <eagle@uoxdev.com>
> wrote:
> > here is close to the same thing in english i think
> ,
> > dunno but it is an
> > artical about mono and dotgnu
> Its not the same. Here is the original text. 
> 
> <SNIP>
> Padronização
> 
> A Microsoft submeteu no fim do ano 2000 o C# a um
> órgão internacional de padronização, o ECMA
> (http://www.ecma.ch,
> http://www.microsoft.com/NET/sharedsourcewp.asp). A
> Sun fez algumas tentativas de padronizar o Java, mas
> nenhum órgão internacional aceitou seus termos
>
(http://news.cnet.com/news/0,10000,0-1003-200-320974,00.html,
>
http://www.cnn.com/1999/TECH/computing/12/09/java.std.cancel.idg/).
> O resultado é que o Java é uma linguagem
> proprietária
> enquanto o C# não é.
> 
> Existem esforços para portar o C#/.NET para outras
> plataformas, dos quais eu destacaria o Mono
>
(http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-list),
> PNet
> (http://www.southern-storm.com.au/portable_net.html)
> e
> .NET para BSD Unix da Corel
>
(http://www3.corel.com/cgi-bin/gx.cgi/AppLogic+FTContentServer?pagename=Corel/PressRelease/Details&id=CC100K16H9C).
> </SNIP>
> 
> <BABELFISH from=portugese to=english>
> Standardization 
> The Microsoft submitted in the end of the year the
> 2000 C # to an international agency of
> standardization, the 
> ECMA (http://www.ecma.ch,
> http://www.microsoft.com/NET/sharedsourcewp.asp). 
> 
> The Sun made some attempts to standardize the Java,
> but no international agency accepted its terms
>
(http://news.cnet.com/news/0,10000,0-1003-200-320974,00.html,
>
http://www.cnn.com/1999/TECH/computing/12/09/java.std.cancel.idg/).
> the result is that the Java is a language proprietor
> while the C # is not. 
> 
> Efforts exist to carry the C#/.NET for other
> platforms, of which I would detach the Mono
>
(http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-list),
> PNet
> (http://www.southern-storm.com.au/portable_net.html)
> and NET for BSD Unix of the Corel
>
(http://www3.corel.com/cgi-bin/gx.cgi/AppLogic+FTContentServer?pagename=Corel/PressRelease/Details&id=CC100K16H9C).
>    
> </BABELFISH>
> > 
> >
>
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/dndotnet/ht
> > ml/deicazainterview.asp
> > 


First, I'd like to say that the translation was 
good!! I always use English to Spanish translation
because the portuguese isn't very complete, but I
could see that in this case it was good!

I liked very much the article!

I keep talking with a friend that loves Java about the
Standardization of C# and CLI. But he keeps saying
that this is a MS play. I don't think so!! And I talk
about the process Sun take with Java and the IBM
answer. There is also the incident with Jakarta people
where Sun changed some JCP aspects.

I like the fact that C# and CLI was sent to a
stardardization body. Because this allows what people
are doing with Mono and Pnet. And I'm not even talking
about other efforts like SharpDevelop, NAnt, NUnit,
Npgsql :) and other projects that are being built on
top of these technologies. This is very good. And I
think that it can go even farther.

I want to say that I *do* like Java. I like it very
much and I think that it changed the history of
computer programming.
But I think also that C# is better, to me, and I want
it to be even better.

I don't know if I should ask this, but I didn't see
anything about that anywhere.

Java has Sun for stardards like Servlets, EJB,
Transaction Processing and others. But I still didn't
find standards like that for .Net, for example,
transaction processing. I know there is COM+ and MTS,
but what about Mono on Unix? 

Sorry if I'm talking too many nonsense things. Please
let me know if I'm saying something wrong.


=====
Regards,
Francisco Jr.

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