[Mono-list] Licensing
Robert Isaacs
RIsaacs@connectwise.com
Tue, 8 Jan 2002 08:56:35 -0500
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I don't understand why company's such as Ximian are demonized when they try
to profit off of something they have invested significant resources into. I
think the situation is very clear. You contribute to the C# compiler and
runtime because you enjoy it. You should understand that Ximian will at
some time try to recoup their investment.
In return, you get an open source implementation of a C# compiler and .net
runtime, which you can always use for free, forever.
When they no longer want outside contributions, they can close it up. (but
you can always keep older snapshots and continue where they left off if
you'd like)
It is in everyone's interest for companies like Ximian to survive (companies
with an open tradition). If it is not palatable to a person that their work
might help them profit in the future, I don't think they should contribute.
Robert
-----Original Message-----
From: Richard Osborne [mailto:r_osborne@linuxmail.org]
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 7:51 PM
To: mono-list@ximian.com
Subject: [Mono-list] Licensing
Miguel, I think you misunderstood Joe Betz's question :-)
He was asking: What guarantee do developers who hand over the copyright of
their contributions to Mono get that Ximian will not release this code under
a more restrictive license that forbids redistribution as per the terms of a
Free Software license?
Say I give you my LGPL'd code: how do I know that you won't take it and
release <insert proprietary non-free application name here> based on it? I
think the general consensus is that there needs to be some kind of contract
to ensure developers that their code won't be abused (to take away the
rights of other users, as RMS would put it) once the copyright has been
transfered.
Will my code stay Free in your hands or will it be proprietarized?
Thanks
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>I don't understand why company's such as Ximian are =
demonized when they try to profit off of something they have invested =
significant resources into. I think the situation is very =
clear. You contribute to the C# compiler and runtime because you =
enjoy it. You should understand that Ximian will at some time try =
to recoup their investment.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>In return, you get an open source implementation of a =
C# compiler and .net runtime, which you can always use for free, =
forever.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>When they no longer want outside contributions, they =
can close it up. (but you can always keep older snapshots and =
continue where they left off if you'd like)</FONT></P>
<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>It is in everyone's interest for companies like =
Ximian to survive (companies with an open tradition). If it is =
not palatable to a person that their work might help them profit in the =
future, I don't think they should contribute.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Robert</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>-----Original Message-----</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>From: Richard Osborne [<A =
HREF=3D"mailto:r_osborne@linuxmail.org">mailto:r_osborne@linuxmail.org</=
A>] </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 7:51 PM</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>To: mono-list@ximian.com</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Subject: [Mono-list] Licensing</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Miguel, I think you misunderstood Joe Betz's question =
:-)</FONT>
</P>
<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>He was asking: What guarantee do developers who hand =
over the copyright of their contributions to Mono get that Ximian will =
not release this code under a more restrictive license that forbids =
redistribution as per the terms of a Free Software license?</FONT></P>
<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Say I give you my LGPL'd code: how do I know that you =
won't take it and release <insert proprietary non-free application =
name here> based on it? I think the general consensus is that there =
needs to be some kind of contract to ensure developers that their code =
won't be abused (to take away the rights of other users, as RMS would =
put it) once the copyright has been transfered.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Will my code stay Free in your hands or will it be =
proprietarized?</FONT>
</P>
<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Thanks</FONT>
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