From stp@kabelnettet.dk Sun Apr 4 10:08:32 2004 From: stp@kabelnettet.dk (Soeren) Date: Sun, 04 Apr 2004 11:08:32 +0200 Subject: [Mono-docs-list] monodoc newbie Message-ID: <1081069712.32322.4.camel@LINUX1.Thor> Hi all. When looking up classes such as gda.client I get this: Mono Implementation Note: An error occured while loading type information: File 'gda-sharp' not found. Whats that about. Is it possible to contrib text to classes that show this? And who exactly are allowed to contrib text? Is any filling in the blanks in gda.*? (btw. i have monodoc 0.11 from rh9 rpms). Søren From tauberer@for.net Sun Apr 4 18:46:08 2004 From: tauberer@for.net (Joshua Tauberer) Date: Sun, 04 Apr 2004 13:46:08 -0400 Subject: [Mono-docs-list] monodoc newbie In-Reply-To: <1081069712.32322.4.camel@LINUX1.Thor> References: <1081069712.32322.4.camel@LINUX1.Thor> Message-ID: <407049E0.9090602@for.net> Soeren wrote: > When looking up classes such as gda.client I get this: > > Mono Implementation Note: > An error occured while loading type information: File > 'gda-sharp' not found. > > Whats that about. Monodoc loads up assemblies to check that the documentation in monodoc actually corresponds to what's in the assembly. It's saying it can't find that assembly. > Is it possible to contrib text to classes that > show this? Yes. > And who exactly are allowed to contrib text? Is any > filling in the blanks in gda.*? As far as I know, you're welcome to contribute anything. -- - Joshua Tauberer http://taubz.for.net ** Nothing Unreal Exists ** From aaron@ximian.com Mon Apr 5 23:25:03 2004 From: aaron@ximian.com (Aaron Weber) Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2004 18:25:03 -0400 Subject: [Mono-docs-list] Proposed changes to monkeyguide Chapters 1 and 2 Message-ID: <1081203875.4636.6.camel@verbal.local> --=-SnqGGil6fiLwyGBxz3hB Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=-XAG5djdDtrEwLBsmsxXs" --=-XAG5djdDtrEwLBsmsxXs Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello. I'm working on the following changes for Chapters 1 and 2: * Revise Preface Chapter 1: * Revise sections 1.1 and 1.2, "What is Mono" and "What is .NET"? * Delete Section 1.3, "History" * Replace with Section 1.3, "Why Mono?" Chapter 2: haven't gotten there yet. Need to replace "Mono Implementation" with "Modules." Goal for all revisions is to be focused on Mono only-- C# and .NET in general have better docs elsewhere, as discussed in one of the appendices. Also, Appendix C (Presentations) should be merged into Appendix D, Additional Resources. Anyone object? The attached diff is a pretty good idea of what sorts of changes i'm contemplating, content-wise... I'll get EDasque or someone to read it over for accuracy before I commit, of course. Cheers! --=-XAG5djdDtrEwLBsmsxXs Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello. I'm working on the following changes for Chapters 1 and 2:

* Revise Preface

Chapter 1:

* Revise sections 1.1 and 1.2, "What is Mono" and "What is .NET"?
* Delete Section 1.3, "History"
* Replace with Section 1.3, "Why Mono?"

Chapter 2:
haven't gotten there yet. Need to replace "Mono Implementation" with "Modules." Goal for all revisions is to be focused on Mono only-- C# and .NET in general have better docs elsewhere, as discussed in one of the appendices. Also, Appendix C (Presentations) should be merged into Appendix D, Additional Resources.

Anyone object? The attached diff is a pretty good idea of what sorts of changes i'm contemplating, content-wise... I'll get EDasque or someone to read it over for accuracy before I commit, of course.

Cheers! --=-XAG5djdDtrEwLBsmsxXs-- --=-SnqGGil6fiLwyGBxz3hB Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=mono-docs-diff.txt Content-Type: text/plain; name=mono-docs-diff.txt; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ? mono-docs-diff.txt Index: en/index.html =================================================================== RCS file: /mono/monkeyguide/html/en/index.html,v retrieving revision 1.75 diff -u -r1.75 index.html --- en/index.html 3 Feb 2004 05:10:54 -0000 1.75 +++ en/index.html 5 Apr 2004 22:14:20 -0000 @@ -22,14 +22,13 @@ -

CHAPTER 2 - Architecture

CHAPTER 2 - Architecture and Platform Support

PART 2 - Installing Mono and Choosing the IDE

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The Mono Handbook is a collection of guides and tutorials that -should help you getting started with Mono. It covers the Mono -runtime, the C# language, and tools like the debugger, certain parts of -the class libraries, the Database layer ADO.NET, and the Website -Framework ASP.NET, as well as Gtk#. It is not meant as the complete -documentation of Mono.

How to read this guide

+The Mono Handbook is a short introduction to the Mono runtime and tools like +the debugger, some class libraries, and Gtk#. It does not cover C# or the +basics of the .NET framework, nor does it constitute the complete documentation +for Mono. Additional resources are listed in +Appendix C, Links to other Resources. + +

Beginners should probably read this guide in its entirety, but experts -will probably only need to read about the information they don't know already.

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What is .NET?

.NET is a product family shipped by Microsoft in 2001 as a -response to the successful Java from Sun and designed to -better integrate the different development environments -on windows like C++ and Visual Basic. From that perspective -it's not a Java clone, but rather an approach to better solve the problems -COM was supposed to solve with some exciting new features added like language -independence, great Database support, broad XML support, well-designed -WebServices and WebApplications support, and a big upgrade -to the VisualBasic language, including better object orientation.

- -

The "Microsoft .NET" name means in fact 3 things. It is important not to confuse -them.

The .NET Framework
Services (MyServices, Passport)
Other things with the label ".NET"

- -Mono is just a free implementation of the .NET Framework for Linux -and other systems. The .NET Framework is a "software platform" similiar -to Java. The technical aspect will be discussed in "Architecture". -

Language independence. Perhaps the most important factor -is, that all languages "are created eval". Yes, that's the right -word. There are not one or two languages that can be consumed by -others, if you want language independence. -Example: All Gnome APIs are written in C. This ensures that you -can write an applicaton in Python by accessing these C libraries -through bindings. But you cannot access Python programs through C. -In the .NET world this is possible. Write in C#, MonoBasic, or -whatever, you can reuse those classes without any problems.

Platform independence. .NET code is not compiled to -machine code, but has an intermediate form. You can copy binaries -across platforms just like in Java. Only native code invocation can -stop this, but it will disappear, when in time.

Class library. .NET has a big, big class library that is useful for -almost any task. The high-level classes are especially interesting. -XML-Support, Database-Support, WebServices-Support and -Webpages-Support are a few examples.

The C# language. C# is a very beautiful, clean, effective -language.

VB.NET language. Microsoft has finally fixed the -Basic language here. It is now just as feature-full as C# or any -other .NET langauge, and Basic classes can be reused in C# as well as -C# classes in Basic.

Web applications. With ASP.NET, Microsoft ships the next -generation web page framework. It benefits from language -independence, so finally you can write your web pages with pascal or -C++ as well as LOGO and so on. Also, it's the first framework to -break with 100% HTML code programming and makes HTML accessible using -objects, while also introducing complex things like calendars.

- + +

The term ".NET" can be terribly confusing, because it represents a +software development platform, several services, and a marketing and +product branding initiative. In this guide, we will use it only in the +sense of the software development platform. That development platform +is distinguished in several important ways:

+ + +

+Perhaps the most important aspect of .NET is that it it is language +independent. Other platforms offer one-way interoperation: GNOME +libraries, written in C, can be accessed from Python, but that Python +code cannot be accessed by other C applications. With the .NET +framework, developers can mix languages and reuse code in any direction. +

+ +

+.NET is also platform independent. As with Java, you can copy +compiled bytecode from one platform to another and run it +anywhere. Note that while you can access native system resources from +.NET, their usage may limit you to platforms on which those resources +are available.

+ + +

+ .NET also has an extensive basic class library, starting with +high-level classes like XML-Support, Database-Support, +WebServices-Support and Webpages-Support. With the .NET class library, +you can develop new applications and extend existing ones easily and +quickly.

+ + +

Finally, .NET gives you access to the C# ("C Sharp") language, a +clean and effective tool for developing in .NET and other +frameworks. You'll see plenty of examples of C# code throughout this +guide, but if you want a complete introduction, see Appendix C, Links to other Resources. +

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Mono is an open source implementation of the Microsoft .NET -Framework.

- -

Mono includes the following: a compiler for the C# language, an ECMA-compatible -runtime engine for the Common Language Infrastructure (also referred -as the CLR) and class libraries, including both Microsoft.NET's libraries as -well as many others. The runtime can be embedded into your -applications.

- -

As the project moved on several other tools were developed. A VB.NET compiler -called MonoBasic was added, Jscript.NET is in development at the time of this writing. -Also a debugger, build tools, were created and there is ongoing work on an IDE. +

What is Mono?

Mono is an open source implementation of +the Microsoft .NET Framework, based on the ECMA standards (as +discussed in Appendix D, ECMA +Standards).

+ +

+ +Mono includes a compiler for the C# language, an ECMA-compatible +runtime engine (the Common Language Runtime, or CLR),and class +libraries. The libraries include both Microsoft .NET and third party +class libraries, and the runtime can be embedded into applications for +simplified packaging and shipping. In addition, the Mono project +offers an IDE, debugger, and documentation browser.

+ +

+Mono ships under a free and open license, which is discussed in +Appendix E, License.

- -

Mono has implementations of both ADO.NET - and ASP.NET as part of its distribution.

- -

Mono project background.

- -

The GNOME project's goal was to bring missing technologies to - Unix and make it competitive in the current marketplace for - desktop applications. We also realized early on that language - independence was important, and that is why GNOME APIs were - coded using a standard that allowed the APIs to be easily - wrapped for other languages. Our APIs are available to most - programming languages on Unix (Perl, Python, Scheme, C++, - Objective-C, Ada).

- -

Later on, we decided to use better methods for encapsulating - our APIs, and we started to use CORBA to define interfaces to - components. We complemented it with policy and a set of - standard GNOME interfaces for easily creating reusable, - language independent components, controls, and compound - documents. This technology is known as Bonobo. - Interfaces to Bonobo exist for C, Perl, Python, and - Java.

- -

CORBA is good when you define coarse interfaces, and most - Bonobo interfaces are coarse. The only problem is that - Bonobo/CORBA interfaces are not good for small interfaces. - For example, an XML parsing Bonobo/CORBA component would be - inefficient compared to a C API.

- -

The Common Language Infrastructure platform.

- -

Microsoft has created a new development platform. The - highlights of this new development platform are the following:

- -

A runtime environment that provides garbage - collection, threading and a virtual machine - specification (The Virtual Execution System, VES).
A comprehensive class library.
A new language, C#. Very similar to Java, C# - allows programmers to use all the features available - on the .NET runtime.
A language specification that compilers can - follow if they want to generate classes and code - that can interoperate with other programming - languages (the Common Language Specification: CLS).

- -

The Common Language Infrastructure platform is similar to the - goals we had in GNOME of giving language independence to - programmers. It is more mature, documented, larger in scope, - and has a consistent design.

- -

Any API that is written using a CLS provider language can be - used by any language that is a CLS consumer. Compilers - generate code in a format called Common Intermediate Language - (CIL), which is an intermediate representation of a compiled - program and is easy to compile to native code or compile - using Just-in-Time (JIT) engines. The restrictions placed by - the runtime on the CIL byte codes ensures that it is possible - to do a good job at optimizing the code in a JIT compiler.

- -

ECMA standards.

- -

Microsoft has submitted the - specifications of C#, the runtime, the metadata and the - other various bits of the .NET development platform to the - ECMA for standarization.

- -

You can get a copy of the specifications submitted to ECMA - from http://www.dotnetexperts.com/ecma.

- -

Mono: An Open Source Common Language Infrastructure implementation.

- -

Ximian has begun work on Mono, a project that aims to bring - the Common Language Infrastructure platform to free systems.

- -

The .NET development platform is a very rich, powerful, and - well designed platform that would help improve the free - software development platform. Just like the GNU project - began to clone Unix sixteen years ago, we will be cloning the - .NET development platform because it is a great platform to - build on.

Index: en/mono/monoimpl.html =================================================================== RCS file: /mono/monkeyguide/html/en/mono/monoimpl.html,v retrieving revision 1.17 diff -u -r1.17 monoimpl.html --- en/mono/monoimpl.html 11 Jan 2004 21:17:37 -0000 1.17 +++ en/mono/monoimpl.html 5 Apr 2004 22:14:20 -0000 @@ -1,4 +1,7 @@ + \ No newline at end of file --=-SnqGGil6fiLwyGBxz3hB-- From mwh@sysrq.dk Mon Apr 5 23:43:27 2004 From: mwh@sysrq.dk (Martin Willemoes Hansen) Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2004 00:43:27 +0200 Subject: [Mono-docs-list] Proposed changes to monkeyguide Chapters 1 and 2 In-Reply-To: <1081203875.4636.6.camel@verbal.local> References: <1081203875.4636.6.camel@verbal.local> Message-ID: <1081205007.16801.15.camel@hugoboss.sysrq.dk> tir, 2004-04-06 kl. 00:25 skrev Aaron Weber: > the appendices. Also, Appendix C (Presentations) should be merged into > Appendix D, Additional Resources. Id rather see the presentations as a seperate appendix, cause it is so big. Maybe move it to www.go-mono.com would be a good idea? -- Martin Willemoes Hansen -------------------------------------------------------- E-Mail mwh@sysrq.dk Website mwh.sysrq.dk IRC MWH, freenode.net -------------------------------------------------------- From edasque@ximian.com Mon Apr 5 23:58:46 2004 From: edasque@ximian.com (Erik Dasque) Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2004 18:58:46 -0400 Subject: [Mono-docs-list] Proposed changes to monkeyguide Chapters 1 and 2 In-Reply-To: <1081205007.16801.15.camel@hugoboss.sysrq.dk> References: <1081203875.4636.6.camel@verbal.local> <1081205007.16801.15.camel@hugoboss.sysrq.dk> Message-ID: Yes, I agree. We will put those on the new web site. Erik On Apr 5, 2004, at 6:43 PM, Martin Willemoes Hansen wrote: > tir, 2004-04-06 kl. 00:25 skrev Aaron Weber: > >> the appendices. Also, Appendix C (Presentations) should be merged into >> Appendix D, Additional Resources. > > Id rather see the presentations as a seperate appendix, cause it is so > big. Maybe move it to www.go-mono.com would be a good idea? > -- > Martin Willemoes Hansen > > -------------------------------------------------------- > E-Mail mwh@sysrq.dk Website mwh.sysrq.dk > IRC MWH, freenode.net > -------------------------------------------------------- > > _______________________________________________ > Mono-docs-list maillist - Mono-docs-list@lists.ximian.com > http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-docs-list From aaron@ximian.com Tue Apr 6 21:48:17 2004 From: aaron@ximian.com (Aaron Weber) Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2004 16:48:17 -0400 Subject: [Mono-docs-list] Question about EXE binaries and kernels? Message-ID: <1081284497.7708.10.camel@verbal.local> --=-NgrrZfjcYZLzacd/Qjup Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Is the following true? If so, what does it mean-- what will happen if I fail to "make the EXE binaries compatible with the kernel?" You can make your mono .exe files executable by following these steps: 1. Enabling binfmt in your kernel. 2. Adding the line below to your fstab: binfmt_misc /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc binfmt_misc none 3. On boot run the command below: echo ':CLR:M::MZ::/usr/bin/mono:' > /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc/register 4. chmod +x foobar.exe Another way to accomplish the above is to wrap the mono .exe file it in a shell script, like this: #!/bin/sh /usr/bin/mono "$@" If you installed mono to a different location, substitute that for /usr/bin/mono. You can check with the "which mono" command. --=-NgrrZfjcYZLzacd/Qjup Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Is the following true? If so, what does it mean-- what will happen if I fail to "make the EXE binaries compatible with the kernel?"

You can make your mono .exe files executable by following these steps:

Enabling binfmt in your kernel.

Adding the line below to your fstab:

binfmt_misc /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc binfmt_misc none

On boot run the command below:

echo ':CLR:M::MZ::/usr/bin/mono:' >
/proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc/register

chmod +x foobar.exe

Another way to accomplish the above is to wrap the
mono .exe file it in a shell script, like this:

#!/bin/sh
/usr/bin/mono "$@"

If you installed mono to a different location, substitute that for /usr/bin/mono. You can check with the "which mono" command.

--=-NgrrZfjcYZLzacd/Qjup-- From felipe_alfaro@linuxmail.org Tue Apr 6 22:31:33 2004 From: felipe_alfaro@linuxmail.org (Felipe Alfaro Solana) Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2004 23:31:33 +0200 Subject: [Mono-docs-list] Question about EXE binaries and kernels? In-Reply-To: <1081284497.7708.10.camel@verbal.local> References: <1081284497.7708.10.camel@verbal.local> Message-ID: <1081287093.1335.4.camel@teapot.felipe-alfaro.com> On Tue, 2004-04-06 at 22:48, Aaron Weber wrote: > Is the following true? If so, what does it mean-- what will happen if > I fail to "make the EXE binaries compatible with the kernel?" You don't make EXE's compatible with the kernel. Instead, you instruct the kernel to use a wrapper ELF (native) binary to bootstrap (launch) the EXE program. That's what BINFMT is for: while trying to launch an EXE, the kernel detects the file signature is not a native one, looks the BINFMT registered formats and tries to look for a match. If a match is found, the corresponding bootstraper native binary is used to launch the non-native program. BINFMT can also used to launch EXE files using WINE or .class files using the JVM. > You can make your mono .exe files executable by following these steps: > > 1. Enabling binfmt in your kernel. This adds support to launch non-native binaries using a bootstrap loader. > 1. Adding the line below to your fstab: > binfmt_misc /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc binfmt_misc none Needed to configure BINFMT support. > 1. On boot run the command below: > echo ':CLR:M::MZ::/usr/bin/mono:' > > /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc/register This adds a new executable format for EXE files. Thus, the next time you launch a file whose signature matches the "MZ" signature of an EXE file, /usr/bin/mono will be used to bootstrap the EXE program. From aaron@ximian.com Tue Apr 6 22:57:17 2004 From: aaron@ximian.com (Aaron Weber) Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2004 17:57:17 -0400 Subject: [Mono-docs-list] Question about EXE binaries and kernels? In-Reply-To: <1081287093.1335.4.camel@teapot.felipe-alfaro.com> References: <1081284497.7708.10.camel@verbal.local> <1081287093.1335.4.camel@teapot.felipe-alfaro.com> Message-ID: <1081288636.7706.51.camel@verbal.local> --=-OhWSlNuIVoC6qiZjSbq6 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks for the explanation. How's this sound? The normal way to run a Mono application is to invoke it through the interpreter, like so: mono myprogram.exe However, there are two things you can do to make it more convenient to run Mono applications. The first is to use a shell script instead of the EXE file. For example, if you had "myprogram.exe" you could create a shell script called "myprogram" that had the contents: #!/bin/sh /usr/bin/mono myprogram.exe If you installed mono to a different location, substitute that for /usr/bin/mono. You can check with the "which mono" command. You can also make a systemwide change, and use binfmt to register the exe files as non-native binaries. Then, when trying to launch an exe file, the kernel will run the mono interpreter to handle the command. Binfmt can also be used to launch Windows executables using WINE, or Java .class files using a JVM. To register exe with the kernel: 1. Turn on binfmt in your kernel. 2. Add the line below to your fstab: binfmt_misc /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc binfmt_misc none 3. Then, have your system run the following command on boot: echo ':CLR:M::MZ::/usr/bin/mono:' > /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc/register 4. Be sure to mark your .exe files as executable in the filesystem as well: chmod +x myprogram.exe --=-OhWSlNuIVoC6qiZjSbq6 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks for the explanation. How's this sound?

The normal way to run a Mono application is to invoke it through the interpreter, like so:

mono myprogram.exe

However, there are two things you can do to make it more convenient to run Mono applications. The first is to use a shell script instead of the EXE file. For example, if you had "myprogram.exe" you could create a shell script called "myprogram" that had the contents:

       #!/bin/sh
       /usr/bin/mono myprogram.exe

If you installed mono to a different location, substitute that for /usr/bin/mono. You can check with the "which mono" command.

You can also make a systemwide change, and use binfmt to register the exe files as non-native binaries. Then, when trying to launch an exe file, the kernel will run the mono interpreter to handle the command. Binfmt can also be used to launch Windows executables using WINE, or Java .class files using a JVM. To register exe with the kernel:

Turn on binfmt in your kernel.

Add the line below to your fstab:

binfmt_misc /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc binfmt_misc none

Then, have your system run the following command on boot:

echo ':CLR:M::MZ::/usr/bin/mono:' > /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc/register

Be sure to mark your .exe files as executable in the filesystem as well:
```
chmod +x myprogram.exe
```

--=-OhWSlNuIVoC6qiZjSbq6-- From bmaurer@users.sourceforge.net Tue Apr 6 23:17:37 2004 From: bmaurer@users.sourceforge.net (Ben Maurer) Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2004 18:17:37 -0400 Subject: [Mono-docs-list] Question about EXE binaries and kernels? In-Reply-To: <1081288636.7706.51.camel@verbal.local> References: <1081284497.7708.10.camel@verbal.local> <1081287093.1335.4.camel@teapot.felipe-alfaro.com> <1081288636.7706.51.camel@verbal.local> Message-ID: <1081289857.4046.5.camel@Ben> On Tue, 2004-04-06 at 17:57, Aaron Weber wrote: > Thanks for the explanation. How's this sound? > > > The normal way to run a Mono application is to invoke it through the > interpreter, like so: Caution. You probably dont mean an `interpreter'. Someone could get confused with interpreter vs jit. > #!/bin/sh > /usr/bin/mono myprogram.exe This will execute `myprogram.exe' that is located in the current working directory. You probably want an absolute path there. Or you could get the path of the script that is executing. Also, you want to put "$@" at the end so that it gets arguments. cat `which mcs` has a good example. From fawad@fawad.net Tue Apr 6 23:29:28 2004 From: fawad@fawad.net (Fawad Halim) Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2004 17:29:28 -0500 Subject: [Mono-docs-list] Question about EXE binaries and kernels? In-Reply-To: <1081289857.4046.5.camel@Ben> References: <1081284497.7708.10.camel@verbal.local> <1081287093.1335.4.camel@teapot.felipe-alfaro.com> <1081288636.7706.51.camel@verbal.local> <1081289857.4046.5.camel@Ben> Message-ID: <40732F48.1010903@fawad.net> On a related note, wouldn't it make sense to bundle a simple binfmt init script with mono? I'm sure we can come up with a script generic enough to work across most of the major distros. -fawad Ben Maurer wrote: >On Tue, 2004-04-06 at 17:57, Aaron Weber wrote: > > >>Thanks for the explanation. How's this sound? >> >> >>The normal way to run a Mono application is to invoke it through the >>interpreter, like so: >> >> >Caution. You probably dont mean an `interpreter'. Someone could get >confused with interpreter vs jit. > > > >> #!/bin/sh >> /usr/bin/mono myprogram.exe >> >> >This will execute `myprogram.exe' that is located in the current working >directory. You probably want an absolute path there. Or you could get >the path of the script that is executing. > >Also, you want to put "$@" at the end so that it gets arguments. > >cat `which mcs` has a good example. > >_______________________________________________ >Mono-docs-list maillist - Mono-docs-list@lists.ximian.com >http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-docs-list > > > > From felipe_alfaro@linuxmail.org Wed Apr 7 00:20:50 2004 From: felipe_alfaro@linuxmail.org (Felipe Alfaro Solana) Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2004 01:20:50 +0200 Subject: [Mono-docs-list] Question about EXE binaries and kernels? In-Reply-To: <1081288636.7706.51.camel@verbal.local> References: <1081284497.7708.10.camel@verbal.local> <1081287093.1335.4.camel@teapot.felipe-alfaro.com> <1081288636.7706.51.camel@verbal.local> Message-ID: <1081293649.1335.19.camel@teapot.felipe-alfaro.com> On Tue, 2004-04-06 at 23:57, Aaron Weber wrote: > Thanks for the explanation. How's this sound? This looks really good. Please take a look at the end of the e-mail for some additional comments. > > > The normal way to run a Mono application is to invoke it through the > interpreter, like so: > > mono myprogram.exe > However, there are two things you can do to make it more convenient to > run Mono applications. The first is to use a shell script instead of > the EXE file. For example, if you had "myprogram.exe" you could create > a shell script called "myprogram" that had the contents: > > #!/bin/sh > /usr/bin/mono myprogram.exe > > If you installed mono to a different location, substitute that for > /usr/bin/mono. You can check with the "which mono" command. > > You can also make a systemwide change, and use binfmt to register the > exe files as non-native binaries. Then, when trying to launch an exe > file, the kernel will run the mono interpreter to handle the command. > Binfmt can also be used to launch Windows executables using WINE, or > Java .class files using a JVM. To register exe with the kernel: > 1. Turn on binfmt in your kernel. 1.1. If you choose to enable binfmt as a module, you'll need to manually load it by running modprobe binfmt as root. Usually, you will want to place the previous command inside the boot script, for example /etc/rc.local so the module gets loaded during boot. > 1. Add the line below to your fstab: > binfmt_misc /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc binfmt_misc none > 2. Then, have your system run the following command on boot: > echo ':CLR:M::MZ::/usr/bin/mono:' > /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc/register This is usually placed inside a boot script, like /etc/rc.local, for example, so it gets invoked automatically at startup. > 1. Be sure to mark your .exe files as executable in the > filesystem as well: > chmod +x myprogram.exe Also, it would be interesing to state that enabling BINFMT support shouldn't create any compatibility or interaction problem between EXE files, the MONO CLR and the kernel, and shouldn't pose any problems when upgrading MONO CLR or the kernel itself, since the process of launching and running the EXE file is handled by a userspace program, /usr/bin/mono, that is, the MONO CLR. Thus, this will work with any BINFMT-enabled kernel, such as 2.4.x and 2.6.x kernels. Recently, I submitted a patch against the 2.6.5 kernel that describes process exactly in the same way as you did in the previous e-mail. It's already upstream so anyone working with a 2.6.5 kernel can also have this handy steps at a well-known place: Documentation/mono.txt and inside the kernel config help text. Thanks! From felipe_alfaro@linuxmail.org Wed Apr 7 00:22:31 2004 From: felipe_alfaro@linuxmail.org (Felipe Alfaro Solana) Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2004 01:22:31 +0200 Subject: [Mono-docs-list] Question about EXE binaries and kernels? In-Reply-To: <1081289857.4046.5.camel@Ben> References: <1081284497.7708.10.camel@verbal.local> <1081287093.1335.4.camel@teapot.felipe-alfaro.com> <1081288636.7706.51.camel@verbal.local> <1081289857.4046.5.camel@Ben> Message-ID: <1081293751.1335.21.camel@teapot.felipe-alfaro.com> On Wed, 2004-04-07 at 00:17, Ben Maurer wrote: > On Tue, 2004-04-06 at 17:57, Aaron Weber wrote: > > Thanks for the explanation. How's this sound? > > > > > > The normal way to run a Mono application is to invoke it through the > > interpreter, like so: > Caution. You probably dont mean an `interpreter'. Someone could get > confused with interpreter vs jit. > > > #!/bin/sh > > /usr/bin/mono myprogram.exe > This will execute `myprogram.exe' that is located in the current working > directory. You probably want an absolute path there. Or you could get > the path of the script that is executing. > > Also, you want to put "$@" at the end so that it gets arguments. Good catch! From felipe_alfaro@linuxmail.org Wed Apr 7 00:24:09 2004 From: felipe_alfaro@linuxmail.org (Felipe Alfaro Solana) Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2004 01:24:09 +0200 Subject: [Mono-docs-list] Question about EXE binaries and kernels? In-Reply-To: <40732F48.1010903@fawad.net> References: <1081284497.7708.10.camel@verbal.local> <1081287093.1335.4.camel@teapot.felipe-alfaro.com> <1081288636.7706.51.camel@verbal.local> <1081289857.4046.5.camel@Ben> <40732F48.1010903@fawad.net> Message-ID: <1081293849.1335.24.camel@teapot.felipe-alfaro.com> On Wed, 2004-04-07 at 00:29, Fawad Halim wrote: > On a related note, wouldn't it make sense to bundle a simple binfmt init > script with mono? I'm sure we can come up with a script generic enough > to work across most of the major distros. I'm not very familiar with non-RPM based distros, like Debian. I could cook up an initscript for RedHat/Fedora/Mandrake/SuSE systems and have it included for testing. Does it sound feasible? From miguel@ximian.com Tue Apr 6 14:53:06 2004 From: miguel@ximian.com (Miguel de Icaza) Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2004 09:53:06 -0400 Subject: [Mono-docs-list] Proposed changes to monkeyguide Chapters 1 and 2 In-Reply-To: <1081205007.16801.15.camel@hugoboss.sysrq.dk> References: <1081203875.4636.6.camel@verbal.local> <1081205007.16801.15.camel@hugoboss.sysrq.dk> Message-ID: <1081259586.5024.72.camel@erandi.boston.ximian.com> Hello, > > the appendices. Also, Appendix C (Presentations) should be merged into > > Appendix D, Additional Resources. > > Id rather see the presentations as a seperate appendix, cause it is so > big. Maybe move it to www.go-mono.com would be a good idea? Also, although I have no problem with giving any license to the slides I wrote, not every slide in there was authored by me, and I suspect we need to talk to Novell's Brainshare about having the slides under the MIT X11 license (like the rest of the docs). In my opinion, Slide Shows do not belong in the handbook, and should be hosted elsewhere. Miguel. From stp@kabelnettet.dk Wed Apr 7 15:48:56 2004 From: stp@kabelnettet.dk (Soeren) Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2004 16:48:56 +0200 Subject: [Mono-docs-list] monodoc newbie In-Reply-To: <407049E0.9090602@for.net> References: <1081069712.32322.4.camel@LINUX1.Thor> <407049E0.9090602@for.net> Message-ID: <1081349336.13428.10.camel@LINUX1.Thor> Which package contains gda-sharp.dll? I have /usr/lib/gtk-sharp.dll which came with gtk-sharp 0.17 rpm but no gda-sharp. btw. since the gnome wrappers seem to be spread out over many dlls shouldnt monodoc have a section for each type that names the assembly/dll containing the namespace? On Sun, 2004-04-04 at 19:46, Joshua Tauberer wrote: > Soeren wrote: > > When looking up classes such as gda.client I get this: > > > > Mono Implementation Note: > > An error occured while loading type information: File > > 'gda-sharp' not found. > > > > Whats that about. > > Monodoc loads up assemblies to check that the documentation in monodoc > actually corresponds to what's in the assembly. It's saying it can't > find that assembly. > > > Is it possible to contrib text to classes that > > show this? > > Yes. > > > And who exactly are allowed to contrib text? Is any > > filling in the blanks in gda.*? > > As far as I know, you're welcome to contribute anything. From joaocrluis@netcabo.pt Fri Apr 9 01:29:32 2004 From: joaocrluis@netcabo.pt (Joao Carlos Ribeiro =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Lu=EDs?=) Date: Fri, 09 Apr 2004 00:29:32 +0000 Subject: [Mono-docs-list] Proposed change to monodoc to support printing Message-ID: <1081470572.17754.30.camel@localhost> --=-KhfcgOiALwLdYIlJxtqK Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-Q61kvcfiFxRPa9s5Eb+m" --=-Q61kvcfiFxRPa9s5Eb+m Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, This is my first time, how can i commit it? Tell me if i'm doing something wrong. 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name=signature.asc Content-Description: Esta =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=E9?= uma parte de mensagem assinada digitalmente -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQBAde5sir8i9ETjYPURAgfqAKCvPBZKMfrMURbjdN36cLDq/Tk7mQCdHDEY 5qZn28ynNcOES7w5PMZLjF4= =Efu+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-KhfcgOiALwLdYIlJxtqK-- From stp@kabelnettet.dk Thu Apr 8 13:51:15 2004 From: stp@kabelnettet.dk (Soeren) Date: Thu, 08 Apr 2004 14:51:15 +0200 Subject: [Mono-docs-list] monodoc newbie In-Reply-To: <1081349336.13428.10.camel@LINUX1.Thor> References: <1081069712.32322.4.camel@LINUX1.Thor> <407049E0.9090602@for.net> <1081349336.13428.10.camel@LINUX1.Thor> Message-ID: <1081428674.7138.11.camel@LINUX1.Thor> Just to answer myself: It turns out gda-sharp belongs to the gtk-sharp package (not entirely logical to a newbie like me :) but its not contained in the gtk-sharp rpm (0.31). Its compiled by default when using the gtk-sharp 0.31 tarball. Is gda-sharp deprecidated or why is it not included in the rpm? On Wed, 2004-04-07 at 16:48, Soeren wrote: > Which package contains gda-sharp.dll? I have /usr/lib/gtk-sharp.dll > which came with gtk-sharp 0.17 rpm but no gda-sharp. > > btw. since the gnome wrappers seem to be spread out over many dlls > shouldnt monodoc have a section for each type that names the > assembly/dll containing the namespace? > > > On Sun, 2004-04-04 at 19:46, Joshua Tauberer wrote: > > Soeren wrote: > > > When looking up classes such as gda.client I get this: > > > > > > Mono Implementation Note: > > > An error occured while loading type information: File > > > 'gda-sharp' not found. > > > > > > Whats that about. > > > > Monodoc loads up assemblies to check that the documentation in monodoc > > actually corresponds to what's in the assembly. It's saying it can't > > find that assembly. > > > > > Is it possible to contrib text to classes that > > > show this? > > > > Yes. > > > > > And who exactly are allowed to contrib text? Is any > > > filling in the blanks in gda.*? > > > > As far as I know, you're welcome to contribute anything. > > _______________________________________________ > Mono-docs-list maillist - Mono-docs-list@lists.ximian.com > http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-docs-list > From iain@mccoy.id.au Thu Apr 8 13:48:21 2004 From: iain@mccoy.id.au (Iain McCoy) Date: Thu, 08 Apr 2004 22:48:21 +1000 Subject: [Mono-docs-list] monodoc newbie In-Reply-To: <1081428674.7138.11.camel@LINUX1.Thor> References: <1081069712.32322.4.camel@LINUX1.Thor> <407049E0.9090602@for.net> <1081349336.13428.10.camel@LINUX1.Thor> <1081428674.7138.11.camel@LINUX1.Thor> Message-ID: <1081428501.1336.2.camel@shakespeare> On Thu, 2004-04-08 at 22:51, Soeren wrote: > Just to answer myself: It turns out gda-sharp belongs to the > gtk-sharp package (not entirely logical to a newbie like me :) > but its not contained in the gtk-sharp rpm (0.31). Its compiled > by default when using the gtk-sharp 0.31 tarball. > > Is gda-sharp deprecidated or why is it not included in the rpm? gda-sharp is a libgda wrapper, and libgda is part of Gnome's database access stuff. I imagine it's included in gtk# so that if C code returns a gda type you can still use it, but not included in the gtk-sharp packages because you should probably be using System.Data (or ByteFX or npgsql, or however it is that they go) for .net-friendly data access stuff rather than libgda. -- Iain McCoy From stp@kabelnettet.dk Thu Apr 8 14:24:33 2004 From: stp@kabelnettet.dk (Soeren) Date: Thu, 08 Apr 2004 15:24:33 +0200 Subject: [Mono-docs-list] monodoc newbie] Message-ID: <1081430673.7138.35.camel@LINUX1.Thor> On Thu, 2004-04-08 at 14:48, Iain McCoy wrote: > On Thu, 2004-04-08 at 22:51, Soeren wrote: > > Just to answer myself: It turns out gda-sharp belongs to the > > gtk-sharp package (not entirely logical to a newbie like me :) > > but its not contained in the gtk-sharp rpm (0.31). Its compiled > > by default when using the gtk-sharp 0.31 tarball. > > > > Is gda-sharp deprecidated or why is it not included in the rpm? > gda-sharp is a libgda wrapper, and libgda is part of Gnome's database > access stuff. I imagine it's included in gtk# so that if C code returns > a gda type you can still use it, but not included in the gtk-sharp > packages because you should probably be using System.Data (or ByteFX or > npgsql, or however it is that they go) for .net-friendly data access > stuff rather than libgda. Isnt System.Data = ADO, a part of .net thats not ECMA standard and might be patent encumbered? I am just asking because that was my initial reason to go with gnome database access instead of System.Data, but I have no idea really how far the ECMA standard goes. From tauberer@for.net Sat Apr 10 23:19:03 2004 From: tauberer@for.net (Joshua Tauberer) Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2004 18:19:03 -0400 Subject: [Mono-docs-list] New docs tools, offline html output Message-ID: <407872D7.50907@for.net> Hey, all. In trying to get my PerlSharp binding to look nice and professional, I started working on an off-line HTML generator for Monodoc XML files. It basically runs docs through a modified version of the main XSL stylesheet that Monodoc uses. The output is a lot like Javadoc output. I'd like to commit this, plus my stub.cs program (no longer creating duplicates of operators), into a new /monodoc/tools directory. Objections anyone? After I get this in CVS, I'll post HTML documentation for the Mono assemblies somewhere, since someone had asked for that a while back. -- - Joshua Tauberer http://taubz.for.net ** Nothing Unreal Exists ** From danielmorgan@verizon.net Sun Apr 11 02:18:36 2004 From: danielmorgan@verizon.net (Daniel Morgan) Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2004 21:18:36 -0400 Subject: [Mono-docs-list] New docs tools, offline html output Message-ID: Hey Joshua, This is wonderful news! I can not wait for the static HTML documentation for Mono. Miguel, Once he has those docs, can we put it up on the web site for download and include it in release packages? Thanks, Daniel [Mono-docs-list] New docs tools, offline html output Joshua Tauberer tauberer@for.net Sat, 10 Apr 2004 18:19:03 -0400 Previous message: [Mono-docs-list] Proposed change to monodoc to support printing Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Hey, all. In trying to get my PerlSharp binding to look nice and professional, I started working on an off-line HTML generator for Monodoc XML files. It basically runs docs through a modified version of the main XSL stylesheet that Monodoc uses. The output is a lot like Javadoc output. I'd like to commit this, plus my stub.cs program (no longer creating duplicates of operators), into a new /monodoc/tools directory. Objections anyone? After I get this in CVS, I'll post HTML documentation for the Mono assemblies somewhere, since someone had asked for that a while back. From tauberer@for.net Sun Apr 11 16:57:44 2004 From: tauberer@for.net (Joshua Tauberer) Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2004 11:57:44 -0400 Subject: [Mono-docs-list] Re: [Mono-list] Offline docs, PerlSharp In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <40796AF8.3080503@for.net> Daniel Morgan wrote: > I can not wait for the static HTML documentation for Mono. Wait no longer. :) See: http://taubz.for.net/code The docs aren't perfect, but... *Also* I've put up a little webpage for my PerlSharp binding, including documentation for it using the same method as I used to generate the docs above. -- - Joshua Tauberer http://taubz.for.net ** Nothing Unreal Exists ** From danielmorgan@verizon.net Mon Apr 12 01:01:31 2004 From: danielmorgan@verizon.net (Daniel Morgan) Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2004 20:01:31 -0400 Subject: [Mono-docs-list] RE: [Mono-list] Offline docs, PerlSharp In-Reply-To: <40796AF8.3080503@for.net> Message-ID: Can you create static HTML docs for GTK# and related libraries, and other Mono libraries too? -----Original Message----- From: mono-list-admin@lists.ximian.com [mailto:mono-list-admin@lists.ximian.com]On Behalf Of Joshua Tauberer Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2004 11:58 AM To: Daniel Morgan Cc: Mono-List; mono-docs-list@lists.ximian.com Subject: Re: [Mono-list] Offline docs, PerlSharp Daniel Morgan wrote: > I can not wait for the static HTML documentation for Mono. Wait no longer. :) See: http://taubz.for.net/code The docs aren't perfect, but... *Also* I've put up a little webpage for my PerlSharp binding, including documentation for it using the same method as I used to generate the docs above. -- - Joshua Tauberer http://taubz.for.net ** Nothing Unreal Exists ** _______________________________________________ Mono-list maillist - Mono-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-list From gert.driesen@pandora.be Thu Apr 15 05:22:11 2004 From: gert.driesen@pandora.be (Gert Driesen) Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 06:22:11 +0200 Subject: [Mono-docs-list] Convert Monodoc -> MS XML doc Message-ID: <012501c422a1$39252070$0200a8c0@mother> Hi, I don't know if this been brought up before, but wouldn't it be good to have a command line tool for converting Monodoc into a MS XML format (meaning, for example, a single XML file for each assembly) ? We could then also ship these for each of the Mono assemblies, like MS does for its. Wouldn't also be a better approach than to create a tool that will convert Monodoc to standalone HTML pages, as this would also allow us to use tools like NDoc to output the class docs in various formats. What do you think ? Gert From tauberer@for.net Thu Apr 15 13:58:46 2004 From: tauberer@for.net (Joshua Tauberer) Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 08:58:46 -0400 Subject: [Mono-docs-list] Convert Monodoc -> MS XML doc In-Reply-To: <012501c422a1$39252070$0200a8c0@mother> References: <012501c422a1$39252070$0200a8c0@mother> Message-ID: <407E8706.3060607@for.net> Gert Driesen wrote: > I don't know if this been brought up before, but wouldn't it be good to have > a command line tool for converting Monodoc into a MS XML format (meaning, > for example, a single XML file for each assembly) ? It's almost trivial to write an XSL transformation from our doc files to the other format (i.e. if you want it, try it). The only trick is getting a list of XML files to combine into one big one, and one of the tools I'm going to check in soon is a shell script that does that. > Wouldn't also be a better approach than to create a tool that will convert > Monodoc to standalone HTML pages I don't see a problem with having two ways to document assemblies... -- - Joshua Tauberer http://taubz.for.net ** Nothing Unreal Exists ** From edasque@ximian.com Mon Apr 19 00:13:24 2004 From: edasque@ximian.com (Erik Dasque) Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2004 19:13:24 -0400 Subject: [Mono-docs-list] New glade tutorial In-Reply-To: <407E8706.3060607@for.net> References: <012501c422a1$39252070$0200a8c0@mother> <407E8706.3060607@for.net> Message-ID: --Apple-Mail-4-943589411 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Hi all, I've been working on a new tutorial piece that walks you through building a tiny web browser using the gecko engine, the demo that Miguel and I created (mostly Miguel, truth be told, but I like to steal credit every now and then) for Brainshare. For those interested, you'll find it in Monkeyguide, it's called glade2.html and is about 50% done. The tutorial uses MonoDevelop, Gecko-sharp and internationalized stock buttons. Erik --Apple-Mail-4-943589411 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=US-ASCII Hi all, VerdanaI've been working on a new tutorial piece that walks you through building a tiny web browser using the gecko engine, the demo that Miguel and I created (mostly Miguel, truth be told, but I like to steal credit every now and then) for Brainshare. For those interested, you'll find it in Monkeyguide, it's called 5555,1A1A,8B8Bglade2.html

and is about 50% done. The tutorial uses MonoDevelop, Gecko-sharp and internationalized stock buttons. Erik

--Apple-Mail-4-943589411-- From hamlet_cu@yahoo.es Tue Apr 20 04:57:31 2004 From: hamlet_cu@yahoo.es (=?iso-8859-1?q?Julio=20Omar?=) Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 05:57:31 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Mono-docs-list] problems with monodoc Message-ID: <20040420035731.13133.qmail@web25207.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> I have instaled redhat9, mono 0.30, apache2 and mod_mono 0.7 but when a restart the apache this problem appear httpd: module "mod_mono.c" is not compatible with this version of Apache (found 20020628, need 20020903). Please contact the vendor for the correct version. I don�t have any idea about that and i will apreciate any help that anybody can give me. __________________________________________ Correo Yahoo! - 6MB de espacio �Gratis! http://correo.yahoo.es From gonzalo@ximian.com Tue Apr 20 16:33:57 2004 From: gonzalo@ximian.com (Gonzalo Paniagua Javier) Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 17:33:57 +0200 Subject: [Mono-docs-list] problems with monodoc In-Reply-To: <20040420035731.13133.qmail@web25207.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> References: <20040420035731.13133.qmail@web25207.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1082475237.1390.6.camel@localhost> El mar, 20-04-2004 a las 05:57, Julio Omar escribi�: > I have instaled redhat9, mono 0.30, apache2 and > mod_mono > 0.7 but when a restart the apache this problem appear > > httpd: module "mod_mono.c" is not compatible with this > version of Apache (found > 20020628, need 20020903). > Please contact the vendor for the correct version. > > I don�t have any idea about that and i will apreciate > any help that anybody can give me. This is the documentation list, not the users/developers list. Please, send an email to mono-list with details on your version of apache, apache-dev and config.log for mod_mono. You could also try the CVS version of mod_mono (read the INSTALL file again, it's been changed) and see if it works. -Gonzalo From jluke@users.sourceforge.net Fri Apr 23 03:06:01 2004 From: jluke@users.sourceforge.net (John Luke) Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2004 22:06:01 -0400 Subject: [Mono-docs-list] explicitly check for gtk# stuff in configure.in Message-ID: <1082685960.6799.6.camel@localhost.localdomain> Hello, The attached patch adds a check for the required versions of the Gtk# libs that monodoc uses in configure.in: gtk-sharp, glade-sharp, and gtkhtml-sharp. Ok to commit with a ChangeLog? 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There are validation errors in quite a few files... -Gonzalo From atsushi@ximian.com Sat Apr 24 16:56:02 2004 From: atsushi@ximian.com (Atsushi Eno) Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2004 00:56:02 +0900 Subject: [Mono-docs-list] Cannot build monkeyguide In-Reply-To: <1082815548.5637.39.camel@localhost> References: <1082815548.5637.39.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <408A8E12.1080002@ximian.com> Gonzalo Paniagua Javier wrote: > Currently I cannot successfully run 'make' in monkeyguide directory. > There are validation errors in quite a few files... Now they should be fixed in cvs. Atsushi Eno From miguel@novell.com Tue Apr 27 01:59:36 2004 From: miguel@novell.com (Miguel de Icaza) Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2004 20:59:36 -0400 Subject: [Mono-docs-list] Mono 1.0 quickly approaching. Message-ID: <1083027576.5147.461.camel@erandi.boston.ximian.com> Hello! We are only nine weeks from Mono 1.0, and now is a perfect time to start documenting some classes using Monodoc if you have some spare time. Miguel. From fseoane@wanadoo.es Tue Apr 27 02:11:50 2004 From: fseoane@wanadoo.es (Fabian) Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 03:11:50 +0200 Subject: [Mono-docs-list] traducing ECMA Message-ID: <1083028309.2105.24.camel@Eox> hi! I'm traducing to spanish the ECMA standart. I'm writing it in monodoc, and i would like to know if i can visualize it from monodoc, and if that is the case, what do i have to do. Thank you. From tauberer@for.net Tue Apr 27 02:37:32 2004 From: tauberer@for.net (Joshua Tauberer) Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2004 21:37:32 -0400 Subject: [Mono-docs-list] Mono 1.0 quickly approaching. In-Reply-To: <1083027576.5147.461.camel@erandi.boston.ximian.com> References: <1083027576.5147.461.camel@erandi.boston.ximian.com> Message-ID: <408DB95C.2040504@for.net> Miguel de Icaza wrote: > We are only nine weeks from Mono 1.0, and now is a perfect time to > start documenting some classes using Monodoc if you have some spare > time. Only 21,118 things left to document in corlib! (This is the number of occurences of "To be added" in the corlib XML files, which are now pretty much in sync with the actual assembly.) -- - Joshua Tauberer http://taubz.for.net ** Nothing Unreal Exists ** From miguel@novell.com Tue Apr 27 02:40:34 2004 From: miguel@novell.com (Miguel de Icaza) Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2004 21:40:34 -0400 Subject: [Mono-docs-list] Mono 1.0 quickly approaching. In-Reply-To: <408DB95C.2040504@for.net> References: <1083027576.5147.461.camel@erandi.boston.ximian.com> <408DB95C.2040504@for.net> Message-ID: <1083030033.5147.485.camel@erandi.boston.ximian.com> Hello! > > We are only nine weeks from Mono 1.0, and now is a perfect time to > > start documenting some classes using Monodoc if you have some spare > > time. > > Only 21,118 things left to document in corlib! (This is the number of > occurences of "To be added" in the corlib XML files, which are now > pretty much in sync with the actual assembly.) Those are fantastic news! That means that statistically, likelyhood of two people documenting the same class simultaneously is almost zero. So everyone, start hitting those [Edit] links in Monodoc ;-) Miguel From jluke@users.sourceforge.net Tue Apr 27 18:19:04 2004 From: jluke@users.sourceforge.net (John Luke) Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 13:19:04 -0400 Subject: [Mono-docs-list] xsl bug with 0.31? Message-ID: <1083086344.32670.18.camel@localhost.localdomain> Hello, It seems monodoc is broken with mono/mcs 0.31. Here is the output of monodoc T:System.String. node `debugger' is not defined on the documentation map node `classlib-gtkmozembed' is not defined on the documentation map free(): invalid pointer 0x41e1c740! Trying: T:System.String Unhandled Exception: System.IndexOutOfRangeException: Array index is out of range. in (unmanaged) /usr/lib/libmono.so.0(mono_raise_exception+0x20) [0x4237f9f3] in (unmanaged) /usr/lib/libmono.so.0 [0x4230bb0b] in <0x00014> Mono.Xml.Xsl.XslTransformProcessor:SetStackItem (int,object) in <0x0003a> Mono.Xml.Xsl.Operations.XslLocalVariable:Evaluate (Mono.Xml.Xsl.XslTransformProcessor) in <0x00088> Mono.Xml.Xsl.Operations.XslTemplateContent:Evaluate (Mono.Xml.Xsl.XslTransformProcessor) in <0x00048> Mono.Xml.Xsl.Operations.XslIf:EvaluateIfTrue (Mono.Xml.Xsl.XslTransformProcessor) in <0x00070> Mono.Xml.Xsl.Operations.XslChoose:Evaluate (Mono.Xml.Xsl.XslTransformProcessor) in <0x00088> Mono.Xml.Xsl.Operations.XslTemplateContent:Evaluate (Mono.Xml.Xsl.XslTransformProcessor) in <0x001ae> Mono.Xml.Xsl.XslTemplate:Evaluate (Mono.Xml.Xsl.XslTransformProcessor,System.Collections.Hashtable) in <0x00091> Mono.Xml.Xsl.XslTransformProcessor:ApplyTemplates (System.Xml.XPath.XPathNodeIterator,System.Xml.XmlQualifiedName,System.Collections.ArrayList) in <0x0004c> Mono.Xml.Xsl.XslDefaultNodeTemplate:Evaluate (Mono.Xml.Xsl.XslTransformProcessor,System.Collections.Hashtable) in <0x00091> Mono.Xml.Xsl.XslTransformProcessor:ApplyTemplates (System.Xml.XPath.XPathNodeIterator,System.Xml.XmlQualifiedName,System.Collections.ArrayList) in [0x00177] (at /tmp/co/mcs/class/System.XML/Mono.Xml.Xsl/XslTransformProcessor.cs:81) Mono.Xml.Xsl.XslTransformProcessor:Process (System.Xml.XPath.XPathNavigator,Mono.Xml.Xsl.Outputter,System.Xml.Xsl.XsltArgumentList,System.Xml.XmlResolver) in <0x000a8> System.Xml.Xsl.ManagedXslTransform:Transform (System.Xml.XPath.XPathNavigator,System.Xml.Xsl.XsltArgumentList,System.IO.TextWriter,System.Xml.XmlResolver) in <0x0001a> System.Xml.Xsl.XslTransform:Transform (System.Xml.XPath.XPathNavigator,System.Xml.Xsl.XsltArgumentList,System.IO.TextWriter,System.Xml.XmlResolver)in <0x00043> System.Xml.Xsl.XslTransform:Transform (System.Xml.XPath.IXPathNavigable,System.Xml.Xsl.XsltArgumentList,System.IO.TextWriter) in [0x00013] (at /home/jluke/cvs/monodoc/browser/ecma-provider.cs:824) Monodoc.EcmaHelpSource:Htmlize (System.Xml.XPath.IXPathNavigable,System.Xml.Xsl.XsltArgumentList) in [0x00066] (at /home/jluke/cvs/monodoc/browser/ecma-provider.cs:749) Monodoc.EcmaHelpSource:GetTextFromUrl (string) in [0x0001d] (at /home/jluke/cvs/monodoc/browser/ecma-provider.cs:587) Monodoc.EcmaHelpSource:RenderTypeLookup (string,string,string,string,Monodoc.Node&) in [0x00053] (at /home/jluke/cvs/monodoc/browser/provider.cs:927) Monodoc.RootTree:TypeLookup (string,Monodoc.Node&) in [0x00279] (at /home/jluke/cvs/monodoc/browser/provider.cs:1083) Monodoc.RootTree:RenderUrl (string,Monodoc.Node&) in [0x000a1] (at /home/jluke/cvs/monodoc/browser/browser.cs:349) Monodoc.Browser:LoadUrl (string) in [0x0015d] (at /home/jluke/cvs/monodoc/browser/browser.cs:85) Monodoc.Driver:Main (string[]) From jluke@users.sourceforge.net Tue Apr 27 19:29:39 2004 From: jluke@users.sourceforge.net (John Luke) Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 14:29:39 -0400 Subject: [Mono-docs-list] xsl bug with 0.31? In-Reply-To: <1083090111.5147.601.camel@erandi.boston.ximian.com> References: <1083086344.32670.18.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1083090111.5147.601.camel@erandi.boston.ximian.com> Message-ID: <1083090579.32670.22.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Tue, 2004-04-27 at 14:21 -0400, Miguel de Icaza wrote: > Hello, > > > It seems monodoc is broken with mono/mcs 0.31. Here is the output of > > monodoc T:System.String. > > > > node `debugger' is not defined on the documentation map > > node `classlib-gtkmozembed' is not defined on the documentation map > > free(): invalid pointer 0x41e1c740! > > Trying: T:System.String > > This works for me, am wondering if you could track where that free() > call is coming from. > > And also mono --debug might be helpful here. > > Miguel Oops, sorry forgot --debug. The free thing comes I think from more recent versions of gtkhtml I think. It occurs in anything that uses Gtk.HTML at least, so it is not monodoc specific. I'll see if I can figure out why I am getting that xsl error though if it works for everyone else. From dan@astusa.com Tue Apr 27 15:55:35 2004 From: dan@astusa.com (Dan) Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 10:55:35 -0400 Subject: [Mono-list] Re: [Mono-docs-list] Mono 1.0 quickly approaching. In-Reply-To: <1083030033.5147.485.camel@erandi.boston.ximian.com> Message-ID: <20040427145535.UOLV18566.out011.verizon.net@dan> Trying to get on http://www.go-mono.com:8080/ to help with doc but it's not working. -Dan -----Original Message----- From: mono-list-admin@lists.ximian.com [mailto:mono-list-admin@lists.ximian.com] On Behalf Of Miguel de Icaza Sent: Monday, April 26, 2004 9:41 PM To: Joshua Tauberer Cc: Mono Docs; mono-list@ximian.com Subject: [Mono-list] Re: [Mono-docs-list] Mono 1.0 quickly approaching. Hello! > > We are only nine weeks from Mono 1.0, and now is a perfect time > > to start documenting some classes using Monodoc if you have some > > spare time. > > Only 21,118 things left to document in corlib! (This is the number of > occurences of "To be added" in the corlib XML files, which are now > pretty much in sync with the actual assembly.) Those are fantastic news! That means that statistically, likelyhood of two people documenting the same class simultaneously is almost zero. So everyone, start hitting those [Edit] links in Monodoc ;-) Miguel _______________________________________________ Mono-list maillist - Mono-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-list From miguel@ximian.com Tue Apr 27 19:21:51 2004 From: miguel@ximian.com (Miguel de Icaza) Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 14:21:51 -0400 Subject: [Mono-docs-list] xsl bug with 0.31? In-Reply-To: <1083086344.32670.18.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1083086344.32670.18.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1083090111.5147.601.camel@erandi.boston.ximian.com> Hello, > It seems monodoc is broken with mono/mcs 0.31. Here is the output of > monodoc T:System.String. > > node `debugger' is not defined on the documentation map > node `classlib-gtkmozembed' is not defined on the documentation map > free(): invalid pointer 0x41e1c740! > Trying: T:System.String This works for me, am wondering if you could track where that free() call is coming from. And also mono --debug might be helpful here. Miguel From miguel@ximian.com Tue Apr 27 19:22:24 2004 From: miguel@ximian.com (Miguel de Icaza) Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 14:22:24 -0400 Subject: [Mono-list] Re: [Mono-docs-list] Mono 1.0 quickly approaching. In-Reply-To: <20040427145535.UOLV18566.out011.verizon.net@dan> References: <20040427145535.UOLV18566.out011.verizon.net@dan> Message-ID: <1083090144.5147.603.camel@erandi.boston.ximian.com> hello, > Trying to get on http://www.go-mono.com:8080/ to help with doc but it's not > working. Well, to help you need Monodoc, the inline editing is not available on the web site edition, only on the Gtk# client. From dan@astusa.com Tue Apr 27 23:10:53 2004 From: dan@astusa.com (Dan) Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 18:10:53 -0400 Subject: [Mono-list] Re: [Mono-docs-list] Mono 1.0 quickly approaching. In-Reply-To: <1083090144.5147.603.camel@erandi.boston.ximian.com> Message-ID: <20040427221054.IXOI1464.out001.verizon.net@dan> Miguel, My mistake, I saw this on the bottom of the http://www.go-mono.com/classlib-doc.html page: Get Involved Help us develop Mono's documentation tools! Subscribe to mono-docs-list and wade right in. Monodoc today also supports a GUI-based collaborative editing system. You can now edit the documentation from the browser and upload your contributions directly to the Mono site. What does edit the documentation from the browser mean? -Dan -----Original Message----- From: mono-list-admin@lists.ximian.com [mailto:mono-list-admin@lists.ximian.com] On Behalf Of Miguel de Icaza Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2004 2:22 PM To: Dan Cc: 'Mono Docs'; mono-list@ximian.com Subject: RE: [Mono-list] Re: [Mono-docs-list] Mono 1.0 quickly approaching. hello, > Trying to get on http://www.go-mono.com:8080/ to help with doc but > it's not working. Well, to help you need Monodoc, the inline editing is not available on the web site edition, only on the Gtk# client. _______________________________________________ Mono-list maillist - Mono-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-list From peter@newton.cx Tue Apr 27 23:44:01 2004 From: peter@newton.cx (Peter Williams) Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 18:44:01 -0400 Subject: [Mono-list] Re: [Mono-docs-list] Mono 1.0 quickly approaching. In-Reply-To: <20040427221249.VDNG1910.out010.verizon.net@dan> References: <20040427221249.VDNG1910.out010.verizon.net@dan> Message-ID: <1083105840.15291.4.camel@beta.newton.cx> On Tue, 2004-04-27 at 18:12, Dan wrote: > Miguel, > > My mistake, I saw this on the bottom of the > http://www.go-mono.com/classlib-doc.html page: The terminology is a little confusing: the documentation viewing program, monodoc, is called the "browser" for short. That's what the statement is referring to, not a web browser. Peter -- Peter Williams peter@newton.cx "[Ninjas] are cool; and by cool, I mean totally sweet." -- REAL Ultimate Power From dan@astusa.com Tue Apr 27 23:51:31 2004 From: dan@astusa.com (Dan) Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 18:51:31 -0400 Subject: [Mono-list] Re: [Mono-docs-list] Mono 1.0 quickly approaching. In-Reply-To: <1083105840.15291.4.camel@beta.newton.cx> Message-ID: <20040427225131.CYPM27801.out008.verizon.net@dan> Peter, Excellent, thank you. -Dan -----Original Message----- From: Peter Williams [mailto:peter@newton.cx] Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2004 6:44 PM To: Dan Cc: 'Mono Docs'; mono-list@ximian.com Subject: RE: [Mono-list] Re: [Mono-docs-list] Mono 1.0 quickly approaching. On Tue, 2004-04-27 at 18:12, Dan wrote: > Miguel, > > My mistake, I saw this on the bottom of the > http://www.go-mono.com/classlib-doc.html page: The terminology is a little confusing: the documentation viewing program, monodoc, is called the "browser" for short. That's what the statement is referring to, not a web browser. Peter -- Peter Williams peter@newton.cx "[Ninjas] are cool; and by cool, I mean totally sweet." -- REAL Ultimate Power From iain@mccoy.id.au Wed Apr 28 15:05:16 2004 From: iain@mccoy.id.au (Iain McCoy) Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 00:05:16 +1000 Subject: [Mono-docs-list] Easing the documentation process Message-ID: <1083161116.19325.2.camel@shakespeare> I've just been filling in some stuff in the Activator class. One thing that occurs frequently here is a lot of similar methods; because every function just creates an instance of a type, the descriptions for the functions are very similar. All of the functions have similar sets of overloads, too. What I'm thinking is that it might be handy to have a "duplicate documentation" button, which takes all of the docs for one method and replicates them as much as is sensible for another. Does this sound useful to other people? I'll look at implementing it if other people think it sounds good. -- Iain McCoy From mandreiana@rdslink.ro Wed Apr 28 15:44:27 2004 From: mandreiana@rdslink.ro (Marius Andreiana) Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 17:44:27 +0300 Subject: [Mono-docs-list] Easing the documentation process In-Reply-To: <1083161116.19325.2.camel@shakespeare> References: <1083161116.19325.2.camel@shakespeare> Message-ID: <1083163467.7901.30.camel@marte.biciclete.ro> On Wed, 2004-04-28 at 17:05, Iain McCoy wrote: > Does this sound useful to other people? I'll look at implementing it if > other people think it sounds good. Yes. Or, if that's hard to implement, at least a template. -- Marius Andreiana Galuna - Solutii Linux in Romania http://www.galuna.ro From scooch@noggle.biz Thu Apr 29 03:44:40 2004 From: scooch@noggle.biz (Joe Scaduto) Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 22:44:40 -0400 Subject: [Mono-docs-list] Problem documenting my code using Monodoc Message-ID: <1083206679.2464.10.camel@dhcppc1> Hello, I was using Monodoc to document the code of one of my projects and while Monodoc was running everything was going great but when I closed Monodoc and then ran it again and selected any class to view the documentation I got the following error message: ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Trying: T:Art.Affine Unhandled Exception: System.Reflection.TargetInvocationException: Exception has been thrown by the target of an invocation. ---> System.TypeInitializationException: An exception was thrown by the type initializer for Monodoc.EditingUtils ---> System.Xml.XmlException: Document element did not appear. in [0x00157](at /tmp/co/mcs/class/System.XML/System.Xml/XmlTextReader.cs:483) System.Xml.XmlTextReader:Read () in [0x00031] (at /tmp/co/mcs/class/System.XML/System.Xml/XmlReader.cs:195) System.Xml.XmlReader:MoveToContent () in [0x00006] (at /tmp/co/mcs/class/System.XML/System.Xml.Serialization/XmlSerializationReaderInterpreter.cs:61) System.Xml.Serialization.XmlSerializationReaderInterpreter:ReadRoot () in [0x00022] (at /tmp/co/mcs/class/System.XML/System.Xml.Serialization/XmlSerializer.cs:262) System.Xml.Serialization.XmlSerializer:Deserialize (System.Xml.Serialization.XmlSerializationReader) in [0x0002e] (at /tmp/co/mcs/class/System.XML/System.Xml.Serialization/XmlSerializer.cs:251) System.Xml.Serialization.XmlSerializer:Deserialize (System.Xml.XmlReader) in [0x0001e] (at /usr/local/Mono/src/mono-31/monodoc-0.13/browser/editing.cs:146) Monodoc.GlobalChangeset:Load () in <0x0000a> Monodoc.EditingUtils:.cctor () --- End of inner exception stack trace --- in (unmanaged) Monodoc.EditingUtils:AccountForChanges (System.Xml.XmlDocument,string,string) in [0x0009c] (at /usr/local/Mono/src/mono-31/monodoc-0.13/browser/provider.cs:469) Monodoc.HelpSource:GetHelpXmlWithChanges (string) in [0x00014] (at /usr/local/Mono/src/mono-31/monodoc-0.13/browser/ecma-provider.cs:724) Monodoc.EcmaHelpSource:GetTextFromUrl (string) in [0x000fd] (at /usr/local/Mono/src/mono-31/monodoc-0.13/browser/ecma-provider.cs:609) Monodoc.EcmaHelpSource:RenderTypeLookup (string,string,string,string,Monodoc.Node&) in [0x00053] (at /usr/local/Mono/src/mono-31/monodoc-0.13/browser/provider.cs:905) Monodoc.RootTree:TypeLookup (string,Monodoc.Node&) in [0x00279] (at /usr/local/Mono/src/mono-31/monodoc-0.13/browser/provider.cs:1061) Monodoc.RootTree:RenderUrl (string,Monodoc.Node&) in [0x000a1] (at /usr/local/Mono/src/mono-31/monodoc-0.13/browser/browser.cs:349) Monodoc.Browser:LoadUrl (string) in [0x00007] (at /usr/local/Mono/src/mono-31/monodoc-0.13/browser/browser.cs:321) Monodoc.Browser:LinkClicked (object,Gtk.LinkClickedArgs) in (unmanaged) /usr/local/lib/libmono.so.0 [0x56f71f] in (unmanaged) /usr/local/lib/libmono.so.0(mono_runtime_invoke+0x23) [0x5ac0e3] in (unmanaged) /usr/local/lib/libmono.so.0(mono_runtime_invoke_array+0x115) [0x5acdf9] in (unmanaged) /usr/local/lib/libmono.so.0 [0x5b2e10] in [0x00033] (at /tmp/co/mcs/class/corlib/System.Reflection/MonoMethod.cs:98) System.Reflection.MonoMethod:Invoke (object,System.Reflection.BindingFlags,System.Reflection.Binder,object[],System.Globalization.CultureInfo) --- End of inner exception stack trace --- in [0x00052] (at /tmp/co/mcs/class/corlib/System.Reflection/MonoMethod.cs:102) System.Reflection.MonoMethod:Invoke (object,System.Reflection.BindingFlags,System.Reflection.Binder,object[],System.Globalization.CultureInfo) in [0x00006] (at /tmp/co/mcs/class/corlib/System.Reflection/MethodBase.cs:52) System.Reflection.MethodBase:Invoke (object,object[]) in [0x0005d] (at /tmp/co/mcs/class/corlib/System/Delegate.cs:197) System.Delegate:DynamicInvokeImpl (object[]) in [0x00020] (at /tmp/co/mcs/class/corlib/System/MulticastDelegate.cs:55) System.MulticastDelegate:DynamicInvokeImpl (object[]) in [0x00002] (at /tmp/co/mcs/class/corlib/System/Delegate.cs:185) System.Delegate:DynamicInvoke (object[]) in <0x001b3> GtkSharp.voidObjectstringSignal:voidObjectstringCallback (intptr,string,int) in <0x00047> (wrapper native-to-managed) GtkSharp.voidObjectstringSignal:voidObjectstringCallback (intptr,intptr,int) in (unmanaged) (wrapper managed-to-native) Gtk.Application:gtk_main () in <0x00004> (wrapper managed-to-native) Gtk.Application:gtk_main () in <0x00007> Gtk.Application:Run () in [0x00162] (at /usr/local/Mono/src/mono-31/monodoc-0.13/browser/browser.cs:85) Monodoc.Driver:Main (string[]) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Any information would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Joe From rodolfocampero@hotmail.com Thu Apr 29 14:45:18 2004 From: rodolfocampero@hotmail.com (Rodolfo Campero) Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 13:45:18 +0000 Subject: [Mono-docs-list] Translator from monodoc XML format to Microsoft XML format Message-ID: FYI >From: "Rodolfo Campero" >To: tauberer@for.net >CC: xiii29@free.fr, mono-list@lists.ximian.com,gellyfish@gellyfish.com, >mono-docs-lists@lists.ximian.com >Subject: Re: [Mono-list] Question about attributes >Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 13:37:28 +0000 > >Hi Joshua, >I already know XSLT, so I will give it a shot this afternoon (it's 10:30 am >here in Argentina, I will start working on it at 19:00). >Also I will subscribe to mono-docs-list right now, so I will posts >questions there if I have to. >I would like to know who should I refer to when I get something usable, in >order to make it part of mono or monodoc. >Best regards, >Rodolfo > > >>From: Joshua Tauberer >>To: Rodolfo Campero >>CC: xiii29@free.fr, mono-list@lists.ximian.com, gellyfish@gellyfish.com >>Subject: Re: [Mono-list] Question about attributes >>Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 09:21:26 -0400 >> >>Rodolfo Campero wrote: >>>I don't know if there is some effort to create a translator from >>>monodoc XML format to Microsoft XML documentation format. That would >>>be nice, because one could use NDoc to generate files for Windows >>>users. >>> >>>Does anyone knows about such a tool? >> >>Since this has come up so many times, I'll work on it when I get the >>chance. (As I keep repeating on the docs list, the two formats are so >>similar that it would be trivial for anyone to learn XSLT, if necessary, >>and write the conversion themselves if they wanted it. It would also make >>a nice project if someone is looking for a way to contribute to Mono.) >> >>-- >>- Joshua Tauberer >> >>http://taubz.for.net >> >>** Nothing Unreal Exists ** > >_________________________________________________________________ >Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online >http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 > >_______________________________________________ >Mono-list maillist - Mono-list@lists.ximian.com >http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-list _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail From gert.driesen@pandora.be Thu Apr 29 14:57:16 2004 From: gert.driesen@pandora.be (Gert Driesen) Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 15:57:16 +0200 Subject: [Mono-docs-list] Translator from monodoc XML format to Microsoft XML format References: Message-ID: <007b01c42df1$e19e4230$d9071fac@ordab.ordab.com> Hi, Kevin Downs (NDoc team) has already started working on an NDoc documenter that will convert MS XML format to Monodoc. It would be great if the conversion from Monodoc (ECMA) to MS XML format could be implemented as an NDoc documenter too. Gert ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rodolfo Campero" To: Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 3:45 PM Subject: [Mono-docs-list] Translator from monodoc XML format to Microsoft XML format > FYI > > > >From: "Rodolfo Campero" > >To: tauberer@for.net > >CC: xiii29@free.fr, mono-list@lists.ximian.com,gellyfish@gellyfish.com, > >mono-docs-lists@lists.ximian.com > >Subject: Re: [Mono-list] Question about attributes > >Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 13:37:28 +0000 > > > >Hi Joshua, > >I already know XSLT, so I will give it a shot this afternoon (it's 10:30 am > >here in Argentina, I will start working on it at 19:00). > >Also I will subscribe to mono-docs-list right now, so I will posts > >questions there if I have to. > >I would like to know who should I refer to when I get something usable, in > >order to make it part of mono or monodoc. > >Best regards, > >Rodolfo > > > > > >>From: Joshua Tauberer > >>To: Rodolfo Campero > >>CC: xiii29@free.fr, mono-list@lists.ximian.com, gellyfish@gellyfish.com > >>Subject: Re: [Mono-list] Question about attributes > >>Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 09:21:26 -0400 > >> > >>Rodolfo Campero wrote: > >>>I don't know if there is some effort to create a translator from > >>>monodoc XML format to Microsoft XML documentation format. That would > >>>be nice, because one could use NDoc to generate files for Windows > >>>users. > >>> > >>>Does anyone knows about such a tool? > >> > >>Since this has come up so many times, I'll work on it when I get the > >>chance. (As I keep repeating on the docs list, the two formats are so > >>similar that it would be trivial for anyone to learn XSLT, if necessary, > >>and write the conversion themselves if they wanted it. It would also make > >>a nice project if someone is looking for a way to contribute to Mono.) > >> > >>-- > >>- Joshua Tauberer > >> > >>http://taubz.for.net > >> > >>** Nothing Unreal Exists ** > > > >_________________________________________________________________ > >Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online > >http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Mono-list maillist - Mono-list@lists.ximian.com > >http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-list > > _________________________________________________________________ > The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail > > _______________________________________________ > Mono-docs-list maillist - Mono-docs-list@lists.ximian.com > http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-docs-list > From rodolfocampero@hotmail.com Thu Apr 29 16:08:34 2004 From: rodolfocampero@hotmail.com (Rodolfo Campero) Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 15:08:34 +0000 Subject: [Mono-docs-list] Translator from monodoc XML format to Microsoft XML format Message-ID: I don't know how long will take to do that; I will try first to do a stand alone application, and then I will check NDoc documentation in order to evaluate if I can do the documenter. If I decide to jump into that second task, I will ask Kevin if I need some help or explanation. >From: "Gert Driesen" >To: "Rodolfo Campero" >, >CC: >Subject: Re: [Mono-docs-list] Translator from monodoc XML format to >Microsoft XML format >Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 15:57:16 +0200 > >Hi, > >Kevin Downs (NDoc team) has already started working on an NDoc documenter >that will convert MS XML format to Monodoc. It would be great if the >conversion from Monodoc (ECMA) to MS XML format could be implemented as an >NDoc documenter too. > >Gert >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Rodolfo Campero" >To: >Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 3:45 PM >Subject: [Mono-docs-list] Translator from monodoc XML format to Microsoft >XML format > > > > FYI > > > > > > >From: "Rodolfo Campero" > > >To: tauberer@for.net > > >CC: xiii29@free.fr, mono-list@lists.ximian.com,gellyfish@gellyfish.com, > > >mono-docs-lists@lists.ximian.com > > >Subject: Re: [Mono-list] Question about attributes > > >Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 13:37:28 +0000 > > > > > >Hi Joshua, > > >I already know XSLT, so I will give it a shot this afternoon (it's >10:30 >am > > >here in Argentina, I will start working on it at 19:00). > > >Also I will subscribe to mono-docs-list right now, so I will posts > > >questions there if I have to. > > >I would like to know who should I refer to when I get something usable, >in > > >order to make it part of mono or monodoc. > > >Best regards, > > >Rodolfo > > > > > > > > >>From: Joshua Tauberer > > >>To: Rodolfo Campero > > >>CC: xiii29@free.fr, mono-list@lists.ximian.com, >gellyfish@gellyfish.com > > >>Subject: Re: [Mono-list] Question about attributes > > >>Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 09:21:26 -0400 > > >> > > >>Rodolfo Campero wrote: > > >>>I don't know if there is some effort to create a translator from > > >>>monodoc XML format to Microsoft XML documentation format. That would > > >>>be nice, because one could use NDoc to generate files for Windows > > >>>users. > > >>> > > >>>Does anyone knows about such a tool? > > >> > > >>Since this has come up so many times, I'll work on it when I get the > > >>chance. (As I keep repeating on the docs list, the two formats are so > > >>similar that it would be trivial for anyone to learn XSLT, if >necessary, > > >>and write the conversion themselves if they wanted it. It would also >make > > >>a nice project if someone is looking for a way to contribute to Mono.) > > >> > > >>-- > > >>- Joshua Tauberer > > >> > > >>http://taubz.for.net > > >> > > >>** Nothing Unreal Exists ** > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________ > > >Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online > > >http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > > >Mono-list maillist - Mono-list@lists.ximian.com > > >http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-list > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* > > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Mono-docs-list maillist - Mono-docs-list@lists.ximian.com > > http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-docs-list > > > >_______________________________________________ >Mono-docs-list maillist - Mono-docs-list@lists.ximian.com >http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-docs-list _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail From tauberer@for.net Thu Apr 29 17:58:40 2004 From: tauberer@for.net (Joshua Tauberer) Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 12:58:40 -0400 Subject: [Mono-docs-list] Translator from monodoc XML format to Microsoft XML format In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <40913440.2010007@for.net> Rodolfo, A starting point: For the static HTML docs generating stuff I'm working on, I added a new "index.xml" file into the mix. These files (one per assembly) contain assembly- and namespace- specific documentation that isn't present in the regular XML files for each of the types. You might want to use these files to determine which types to combine into the MS-style XML file, using something like: You can generate an index.xml file using monodoc/tools/stub.exe with the --stubassembly option (which I just now committed). This will let you combine all of the files entirely with XSLT. Otherwise you could also scan the directory, but that requires programming outside of XSLT. -- - Joshua Tauberer http://taubz.for.net ** Nothing Unreal Exists ** Rodolfo Campero wrote: > I don't know how long will take to do that; I will try first to do a > stand alone application, and then I will check NDoc documentation in > order to evaluate if I can do the documenter. > > If I decide to jump into that second task, I will ask Kevin if I need > some help or explanation. > > >> From: "Gert Driesen" >> To: "Rodolfo Campero" >> , >> CC: >> Subject: Re: [Mono-docs-list] Translator from monodoc XML format to >> Microsoft XML format >> Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 15:57:16 +0200 >> >> Hi, >> >> Kevin Downs (NDoc team) has already started working on an NDoc documenter >> that will convert MS XML format to Monodoc. It would be great if the >> conversion from Monodoc (ECMA) to MS XML format could be implemented >> as an >> NDoc documenter too. >> >> Gert >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Rodolfo Campero" >> To: >> Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 3:45 PM >> Subject: [Mono-docs-list] Translator from monodoc XML format to Microsoft >> XML format >> >> >> > FYI >> > >> > >> > >From: "Rodolfo Campero" >> > >To: tauberer@for.net >> > >CC: xiii29@free.fr, >> mono-list@lists.ximian.com,gellyfish@gellyfish.com, >> > >mono-docs-lists@lists.ximian.com >> > >Subject: Re: [Mono-list] Question about attributes >> > >Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 13:37:28 +0000 >> > > >> > >Hi Joshua, >> > >I already know XSLT, so I will give it a shot this afternoon (it's >> 10:30 >> am >> > >here in Argentina, I will start working on it at 19:00). >> > >Also I will subscribe to mono-docs-list right now, so I will posts >> > >questions there if I have to. >> > >I would like to know who should I refer to when I get something >> usable, >> in >> > >order to make it part of mono or monodoc. >> > >Best regards, >> > >Rodolfo >> > > >> > > >> > >>From: Joshua Tauberer >> > >>To: Rodolfo Campero >> > >>CC: xiii29@free.fr, mono-list@lists.ximian.com, >> gellyfish@gellyfish.com >> > >>Subject: Re: [Mono-list] Question about attributes >> > >>Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 09:21:26 -0400 >> > >> >> > >>Rodolfo Campero wrote: >> > >>>I don't know if there is some effort to create a translator from >> > >>>monodoc XML format to Microsoft XML documentation format. That would >> > >>>be nice, because one could use NDoc to generate files for Windows >> > >>>users. >> > >>> >> > >>>Does anyone knows about such a tool? >> > >> >> > >>Since this has come up so many times, I'll work on it when I get the >> > >>chance. (As I keep repeating on the docs list, the two formats >> are so >> > >>similar that it would be trivial for anyone to learn XSLT, if >> necessary, >> > >>and write the conversion themselves if they wanted it. It would also >> make >> > >>a nice project if someone is looking for a way to contribute to >> Mono.) >> > >> >> > >>-- >> > >>- Joshua Tauberer >> > >> >> > >>http://taubz.for.net >> > >> >> > >>** Nothing Unreal Exists ** >> > > >> > >_________________________________________________________________ >> > >Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online >> > >http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 >> > > >> > >_______________________________________________ >> > >Mono-list maillist - Mono-list@lists.ximian.com >> > >http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-list >> > >> > _________________________________________________________________ >> > The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* >> > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Mono-docs-list maillist - Mono-docs-list@lists.ximian.com >> > http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-docs-list >> > >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Mono-docs-list maillist - Mono-docs-list@lists.ximian.com >> http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-docs-list > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail > > _______________________________________________ > Mono-docs-list maillist - Mono-docs-list@lists.ximian.com > http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-docs-list From rodolfocampero@hotmail.com Thu Apr 29 18:20:36 2004 From: rodolfocampero@hotmail.com (Rodolfo Campero) Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 17:20:36 +0000 Subject: [Mono-docs-list] Translator from monodoc XML format to Microsoft XML format Message-ID: Hello everybody, Given the fact that Kevin is working on a command-line utility to convert MonoDoc->MS-XML, I consider that it will be a waste of effort if I start coding such a tool from scratch. So in my opinion the best thing to do now is just wait untill Kevin finishes its work. Do you agree? >From: "Kevin Downs" >Reply-To: >To: "'Gert Driesen'" , "'Rodolfo Campero'" > >CC: >Subject: RE: [Mono-docs-list] Translator from monodoc XML format to >Microsoft XML format >Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 02:24:55 +1000 > >At present, all I'm doing is knocking together a quick command-line utility >to convert MonoDoc->MS-XML. Eventually this will be rolled into Ndoc core; >MonoDocs will become a 'native' format and users will be able to freely mix >whichever format they have at hand :) > >There are some complications. The most notable is that MS-XML covers a >whole >assembly in one file whereas (from what I've seen) MonoDocs are split by >Type. > >The MonoDoc format is less complex than the NDoc internal XML, so creating >a >MonoDoc documenter should not be a major issue. The only part that would be >complex is the ILASM and C# signatures; This is one of the most complex >parts in the current documenters' xslt - for the next major release I am >looking to provide a much cleaner mechanism. > >regards, >Kevin > >--- >"Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by >stupidity" > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Gert Driesen [mailto:gert.driesen@pandora.be] > > Sent: Thursday, 29 April 2004 11:57 PM > > To: Rodolfo Campero; mono-docs-list@lists.ximian.com > > Cc: kdowns@users.sourceforge.net > > Subject: Re: [Mono-docs-list] Translator from monodoc XML > > format to Microsoft XML format > > > > Hi, > > > > Kevin Downs (NDoc team) has already started working on an > > NDoc documenter that will convert MS XML format to Monodoc. > > It would be great if the conversion from Monodoc (ECMA) to MS > > XML format could be implemented as an NDoc documenter too. > > > > Gert > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Rodolfo Campero" > > To: > > Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 3:45 PM > > Subject: [Mono-docs-list] Translator from monodoc XML format > > to Microsoft XML format > > > > > > > FYI > > > > > > > > > >From: "Rodolfo Campero" > > > >To: tauberer@for.net > > > >CC: xiii29@free.fr, > > > >mono-list@lists.ximian.com,gellyfish@gellyfish.com, > > > >mono-docs-lists@lists.ximian.com > > > >Subject: Re: [Mono-list] Question about attributes > > > >Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 13:37:28 +0000 > > > > > > > >Hi Joshua, > > > >I already know XSLT, so I will give it a shot this afternoon (it's > > > >10:30 > > am > > > >here in Argentina, I will start working on it at 19:00). > > > >Also I will subscribe to mono-docs-list right now, so I will posts > > > >questions there if I have to. > > > >I would like to know who should I refer to when I get something > > > >usable, > > in > > > >order to make it part of mono or monodoc. > > > >Best regards, > > > >Rodolfo > > > > > > > > > > > >>From: Joshua Tauberer > > > >>To: Rodolfo Campero > > > >>CC: xiii29@free.fr, mono-list@lists.ximian.com, > > > >>gellyfish@gellyfish.com > > > >>Subject: Re: [Mono-list] Question about attributes > > > >>Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 09:21:26 -0400 > > > >> > > > >>Rodolfo Campero wrote: > > > >>>I don't know if there is some effort to create a translator from > > > >>>monodoc XML format to Microsoft XML documentation format. That > > > >>>would be nice, because one could use NDoc to generate files for > > > >>>Windows users. > > > >>> > > > >>>Does anyone knows about such a tool? > > > >> > > > >>Since this has come up so many times, I'll work on it > > when I get the > > > >>chance. (As I keep repeating on the docs list, the two > > formats are > > > >>so similar that it would be trivial for anyone to learn XSLT, if > > > >>necessary, and write the conversion themselves if they > > wanted it. > > > >>It would also > > make > > > >>a nice project if someone is looking for a way to contribute to > > > >>Mono.) > > > >> > > > >>-- > > > >>- Joshua Tauberer > > > >> > > > >>http://taubz.for.net > > > >> > > > >>** Nothing Unreal Exists ** > > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________ > > > >Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online > > > >http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > > > >Mono-list maillist - Mono-list@lists.ximian.com > > > >http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-list > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* > > > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Mono-docs-list maillist - Mono-docs-list@lists.ximian.com > > > http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-docs-list > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail From tauberer@for.net Thu Apr 29 20:15:39 2004 From: tauberer@for.net (Joshua Tauberer) Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 15:15:39 -0400 Subject: [Mono-docs-list] Translator from monodoc XML format to Microsoft XML format In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4091545B.1040600@for.net> Rodolfo Campero wrote: > Given the fact that Kevin is working on a command-line utility to > convert MonoDoc->MS-XML, I consider that it will be a waste of effort if > I start coding such a tool from scratch. So in my opinion the best thing > to do now is just wait untill Kevin finishes its work. > > Do you agree? 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kevin@kdowns.com (Kevin Downs) Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 02:24:55 +1000 Subject: [Mono-docs-list] Translator from monodoc XML format to Microsoft XML format In-Reply-To: <007b01c42df1$e19e4230$d9071fac@ordab.ordab.com> Message-ID: <200404291624.i3TGOrH11963@mail021.syd.optusnet.com.au> At present, all I'm doing is knocking together a quick command-line utility to convert MonoDoc->MS-XML. Eventually this will be rolled into Ndoc core; MonoDocs will become a 'native' format and users will be able to freely mix whichever format they have at hand :) There are some complications. The most notable is that MS-XML covers a whole assembly in one file whereas (from what I've seen) MonoDocs are split by Type. The MonoDoc format is less complex than the NDoc internal XML, so creating a MonoDoc documenter should not be a major issue. The only part that would be complex is the ILASM and C# signatures; This is one of the most complex parts in the current documenters' xslt - for the next major release I am looking to provide a much cleaner mechanism. regards, Kevin --- "Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity" > -----Original Message----- > From: Gert Driesen [mailto:gert.driesen@pandora.be] > Sent: Thursday, 29 April 2004 11:57 PM > To: Rodolfo Campero; mono-docs-list@lists.ximian.com > Cc: kdowns@users.sourceforge.net > Subject: Re: [Mono-docs-list] Translator from monodoc XML > format to Microsoft XML format > > Hi, > > Kevin Downs (NDoc team) has already started working on an > NDoc documenter that will convert MS XML format to Monodoc. > It would be great if the conversion from Monodoc (ECMA) to MS > XML format could be implemented as an NDoc documenter too. > > Gert > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rodolfo Campero" > To: > Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 3:45 PM > Subject: [Mono-docs-list] Translator from monodoc XML format > to Microsoft XML format > > > > FYI > > > > > > >From: "Rodolfo Campero" > > >To: tauberer@for.net > > >CC: xiii29@free.fr, > > >mono-list@lists.ximian.com,gellyfish@gellyfish.com, > > >mono-docs-lists@lists.ximian.com > > >Subject: Re: [Mono-list] Question about attributes > > >Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 13:37:28 +0000 > > > > > >Hi Joshua, > > >I already know XSLT, so I will give it a shot this afternoon (it's > > >10:30 > am > > >here in Argentina, I will start working on it at 19:00). > > >Also I will subscribe to mono-docs-list right now, so I will posts > > >questions there if I have to. > > >I would like to know who should I refer to when I get something > > >usable, > in > > >order to make it part of mono or monodoc. > > >Best regards, > > >Rodolfo > > > > > > > > >>From: Joshua Tauberer > > >>To: Rodolfo Campero > > >>CC: xiii29@free.fr, mono-list@lists.ximian.com, > > >>gellyfish@gellyfish.com > > >>Subject: Re: [Mono-list] Question about attributes > > >>Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 09:21:26 -0400 > > >> > > >>Rodolfo Campero wrote: > > >>>I don't know if there is some effort to create a translator from > > >>>monodoc XML format to Microsoft XML documentation format. That > > >>>would be nice, because one could use NDoc to generate files for > > >>>Windows users. > > >>> > > >>>Does anyone knows about such a tool? > > >> > > >>Since this has come up so many times, I'll work on it > when I get the > > >>chance. (As I keep repeating on the docs list, the two > formats are > > >>so similar that it would be trivial for anyone to learn XSLT, if > > >>necessary, and write the conversion themselves if they > wanted it. > > >>It would also > make > > >>a nice project if someone is looking for a way to contribute to > > >>Mono.) > > >> > > >>-- > > >>- Joshua Tauberer > > >> > > >>http://taubz.for.net > > >> > > >>** Nothing Unreal Exists ** > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________ > > >Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online > > >http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > > >Mono-list maillist - Mono-list@lists.ximian.com > > >http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-list > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* > > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Mono-docs-list maillist - Mono-docs-list@lists.ximian.com > > http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-docs-list > > > From kevin@kdowns.com Fri Apr 30 02:45:44 2004 From: kevin@kdowns.com (Kevin Downs) Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 11:45:44 +1000 Subject: [Mono-docs-list] Translator from monodoc XML format to Microsoft XML format In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200404300145.i3U1jiD06504@mail018.syd.optusnet.com.au> Hold on to your enthusiasm guys... I'm only writing a quick-and-dirty hack utility to let Mono users produce docs using NDoc - It's not meant to be a 'production-quality' piece of coding! regards, Kevin --- "Make it idiot-proof, and someone will make a better idiot..." > -----Original Message----- > From: Rodolfo Campero [mailto:rodolfocampero@hotmail.com] > Sent: Friday, 30 April 2004 3:21 AM > To: kevin@kdowns.com; gert.driesen@pandora.be; tauberer@for.net > Cc: mono-docs-list@lists.ximian.com > Subject: RE: [Mono-docs-list] Translator from monodoc XML > format to Microsoft XML format > > Hello everybody, > > Given the fact that Kevin is working on a command-line > utility to convert > MonoDoc->MS-XML, I consider that it will be a waste of effort > if I start > coding such a tool from scratch. So in my opinion the best > thing to do now is just wait untill Kevin finishes its work. > > Do you agree? > > > >From: "Kevin Downs" > >Reply-To: > >To: "'Gert Driesen'" , "'Rodolfo > Campero'" > > > >CC: > >Subject: RE: [Mono-docs-list] Translator from monodoc XML format to > >Microsoft XML format > >Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 02:24:55 +1000 > > > >At present, all I'm doing is knocking together a quick command-line > >utility to convert MonoDoc->MS-XML. Eventually this will be > rolled into > >Ndoc core; MonoDocs will become a 'native' format and users will be > >able to freely mix whichever format they have at hand :) > > > >There are some complications. The most notable is that > MS-XML covers a > >whole assembly in one file whereas (from what I've seen) > MonoDocs are > >split by Type. > > > >The MonoDoc format is less complex than the NDoc internal XML, so > >creating a MonoDoc documenter should not be a major issue. The only > >part that would be complex is the ILASM and C# signatures; > This is one > >of the most complex parts in the current documenters' xslt - for the > >next major release I am looking to provide a much cleaner mechanism. > > > >regards, > >Kevin > > > >--- > >"Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by > >stupidity" > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Gert Driesen [mailto:gert.driesen@pandora.be] > > > Sent: Thursday, 29 April 2004 11:57 PM > > > To: Rodolfo Campero; mono-docs-list@lists.ximian.com > > > Cc: kdowns@users.sourceforge.net > > > Subject: Re: [Mono-docs-list] Translator from monodoc XML > format to > > > Microsoft XML format > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > Kevin Downs (NDoc team) has already started working on an NDoc > > > documenter that will convert MS XML format to Monodoc. > > > It would be great if the conversion from Monodoc (ECMA) to MS XML > > > format could be implemented as an NDoc documenter too. > > > > > > Gert > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Rodolfo Campero" > > > To: > > > Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 3:45 PM > > > Subject: [Mono-docs-list] Translator from monodoc XML format to > > > Microsoft XML format > > > > > > > > > > FYI > > > > > > > > > > > > >From: "Rodolfo Campero" > > > > >To: tauberer@for.net > > > > >CC: xiii29@free.fr, > > > > >mono-list@lists.ximian.com,gellyfish@gellyfish.com, > > > > >mono-docs-lists@lists.ximian.com > > > > >Subject: Re: [Mono-list] Question about attributes > > > > >Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 13:37:28 +0000 > > > > > > > > > >Hi Joshua, > > > > >I already know XSLT, so I will give it a shot this afternoon > > > > >(it's 10:30 > > > am > > > > >here in Argentina, I will start working on it at 19:00). > > > > >Also I will subscribe to mono-docs-list right now, so I will > > > > >posts questions there if I have to. > > > > >I would like to know who should I refer to when I get > something > > > > >usable, > > > in > > > > >order to make it part of mono or monodoc. > > > > >Best regards, > > > > >Rodolfo > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>From: Joshua Tauberer > > > > >>To: Rodolfo Campero > > > > >>CC: xiii29@free.fr, mono-list@lists.ximian.com, > > > > >>gellyfish@gellyfish.com > > > > >>Subject: Re: [Mono-list] Question about attributes > > > > >>Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 09:21:26 -0400 > > > > >> > > > > >>Rodolfo Campero wrote: > > > > >>>I don't know if there is some effort to create a translator > > > > >>>from monodoc XML format to Microsoft XML > documentation format. > > > > >>>That would be nice, because one could use NDoc to generate > > > > >>>files for Windows users. > > > > >>> > > > > >>>Does anyone knows about such a tool? > > > > >> > > > > >>Since this has come up so many times, I'll work on it > > > when I get the > > > > >>chance. (As I keep repeating on the docs list, the two > > > formats are > > > > >>so similar that it would be trivial for anyone to > learn XSLT, if > > > > >>necessary, and write the conversion themselves if they > > > wanted it. > > > > >>It would also > > > make > > > > >>a nice project if someone is looking for a way to > contribute to > > > > >>Mono.) > > > > >> > > > > >>-- > > > > >>- Joshua Tauberer > > > > >> > > > > >>http://taubz.for.net > > > > >> > > > > >>** Nothing Unreal Exists ** > > > > > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________ > > > > >Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online > > > > >http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 > > > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > > > > >Mono-list maillist - Mono-list@lists.ximian.com > > > > >http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-list > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > > The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* > > > > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Mono-docs-list maillist - Mono-docs-list@lists.ximian.com > > > > http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-docs-list > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail > From rodolfocampero@hotmail.com Fri Apr 30 13:36:10 2004 From: rodolfocampero@hotmail.com (Rodolfo Campero) Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 12:36:10 +0000 Subject: [Mono-docs-list] Translator from monodoc XML format to Microsoft XML format Message-ID: >From: "Kevin Downs" >Reply-To: >To: "'Rodolfo Campero'" >,, >CC: >Subject: RE: [Mono-docs-list] Translator from monodoc XML format to >Microsoft XML format >Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 11:45:44 +1000 > >Hold on to your enthusiasm guys... > >I'm only writing a quick-and-dirty hack utility to let Mono users produce >docs using NDoc - It's not meant to be a 'production-quality' piece of >coding! Well, that scratches my itch! ;) > >regards, >Kevin Cheers Kevin, and BTW: NDoc is a great product! _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail