[Mono-dev] Porting Mono to 'asm.js'

[Bob Summerwill]

No problem!   I think that HTML5-as-a-platform would be a great idea,
however it comes about.

Joao would be the best person to answer your questions, I think, because
I'm not associated with Xamarin or GSoC.   I'm just interested in this area
of technology.


Cheers,
Bob


Chee

On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 8:25 PM, Nirmal Lankathilaka <nir3al+dev at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Thanks Bob for the awesome links and the CC!! I too, would love to see
> that potential achieved.
>
> I've been doing some reading about porting to asm.js. Is there anything
> you'd suggest that I should read/experiment on? Also, is there any
> idea/suggestions you have in mind about how I should continue to work on
> this project and what I should do (in the context of GSoC)?
>
> On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 10:49 PM, Bob Summerwill <bob at summerwill.net>
> wrote:
>
>>
>> Corrected link - http://monohtml5.com - sorry.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 10:18 AM, Bob Summerwill <bob at summerwill.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I started digging into area last year.   See https://monohtml5.com/.
>>>
>>> I think there is huge potential for Mono and .NET apps targeting the
>>> browser, and treating HTML5 as "just another platform".
>>>
>>> *
>>> https://monohtml5.wordpress.com/2014/05/29/a-vision-html5-can-be-just-another-platform-for-net/
>>> *
>>> https://monohtml5.wordpress.com/2014/06/09/monohtml5-what-are-the-existing-projects-in-this-area/
>>> *
>>> https://monohtml5.wordpress.com/2014/06/14/monohtml5-what-are-you-actually-trying-to-make/
>>>
>>> Joao is in the CC on this mail.
>>>
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Bob
>>>
>>> On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 3:31 AM, Nirmal Lankathilaka <
>>> nir3al+dev at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks for the clarification! Also, sorry for the late reply. I've been
>>>> doing some reading and experimenting on asm.js/emscripten between my
>>>> regular studies.
>>>>
>>>> Also, could you help me on how to contact "João Matos", who is stated
>>>> as the mentor for that project?
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Mar 15, 2015 at 8:47 PM, Robert Jordan <robertj at gmx.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 15.03.2015 10:59, Nirmal Lankathilaka wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I've been using Mono for developing desktop apps for a couple of
>>>>>> years and
>>>>>> would love to contribute to the project. Since I'm still a student, I
>>>>>> think
>>>>>> GSoC is a splendid opportunity to start.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Porting Mono to `asm.js`", presented for GSoC, caught my attention
>>>>>> recently. I spent some time researching this and I'd like some
>>>>>> clarification from the community:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Since Mono-LLVM support does exist[mono-llvm]
>>>>>> <http://www.mono-project.com/docs/advanced/mono-llvm/>, why would
>>>>>> the need
>>>>>> arise for a port? I understand that there are limitations
>>>>>> [mono-llvm#limitations]
>>>>>> <http://www.mono-project.com/docs/advanced/mono-llvm/#limitations>
>>>>>> in the
>>>>>> above approach as LLVM doesn't fully support all the needs of Mono;
>>>>>> but
>>>>>> since there is no specifications given which would require one to
>>>>>> avoid the
>>>>>> above approach (mono-llvm-->llvm-->emscripten-->asm.js), I'm a bit
>>>>>> confused.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The proposal assumes a slightly deeper understanding of the Mono
>>>>> internals.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.mono-project.com/community/google-summer-of-
>>>>> code/projects/#port-mono-to-asmjs
>>>>>
>>>>> "mono runtime" is here the part of Mono that provides the OS
>>>>> abstraction layer (file, network etc.) and GC. It's that minimal
>>>>> part of Mono that's needed for running static AOT (ahead-of-time
>>>>> compilation) assemblies that were compiled to native shared objects
>>>>> or included into the main executable. Basically, it's Mono sans
>>>>> code generation, suitable to run on the target.
>>>>>
>>>>> The target is here "emscripten/asm.js", so it needs a port.
>>>>>
>>>>> "mono cross compiler that can target emscripten"
>>>>> is a Mono LLVM AOT target that generates LLVM code suitable
>>>>> for emscripten. This part is supposed to run on the host, i.e.
>>>>> it has access to a full tool chain etc.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> On a different note, could you explain to me whether I should use the
>>>>>> forums instead of the mailing-lists (which I prefer) for communication
>>>>>> regarding GSoC and the `asm.js` port.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The forums are just a mirror of this list.
>>>>>
>>>>> Robert
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>
>>
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