[Mono-dev] Unit Testing process: Community Contributions

Robert Jordan robertj at gmx.net
Tue Oct 21 15:18:03 UTC 2014

On 21.10.2014 13:05, Edward Ned Harvey (mono) wrote:
>> From: Miguel de Icaza [mailto:miguel at xamarin.com]
>> There is no need to presume, the actual issue was just articulated
>> on a thread, please read it.
>> Pull requests do not work well with Mono.   They need to be
>> discussed in the mailing list
> Did I miss something?  Do you not recognize that there's a problem
> here?
> What are we supposed to do when we do all that stuff - discuss in
> mailing list, pay for Xamarin, contact Xamarin support, file or find
> bug in bugzilla, and even write our own patches and submit pull
> request to solve our own problems, and then *still* nothing happens?

Please do not intermix the expectations/entitlements you've got for
being a paying customer of Xamarin with their Open Source efforts.

As long as the community isn't moving (or even fork, as a last resort)
things won't change substantially. Miguel has clearly stated
multiple times that there is enough room for involvement in some
areas (e.g. Server Stack), even commercially. I haven't seen anyone
stepping up so far, at least not here.

A few pull requests are not enough to show commitment and to take
ownership over a module/subsystem/whatever. Hackers are coming
and going, code is rotting away, Xamarin is collecting the garbage.
I guess they are tired of this ;)

On pull request discussions on this list: Assuming that core
devs are rather monitoring this list (I hope it's still the case),
I'd prefer this approach anytime to the discussion over at GitHub.
I've given up on reviewing because of this `media switch'.


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