[Mono-dev] Building mono on Windows issues.

[Bryan Crotaz]

Basically if we could persuade Xamarin to get mono building on Windows and
VS users able to debug Mono, suddenly there would be a lot more developers
able to contribute without having to learn a whole new stack first.

Bryan

On 16 October 2014 14:36, Bryan Crotaz <bryan.crotaz at silvercurve.co.uk>
wrote:

> continued... (grrr PEBKAC)
> https://www.jetbrains.com/resharper/features/code_analysis.html
>
> On 16 October 2014 14:35, Bryan Crotaz <bryan.crotaz at silvercurve.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
>> You can probably do 5-10% max of resharper this way.  Here's some
>> examples of how it speeds up my day:
>>
>> On 16 October 2014 14:22, Greg Young <gregoryyoung1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> This may help you a bit
>>>
>>> https://www.google.co.uk/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=greg+young+sublime+is+sublime&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&gfe_rd=cr&ei=FsY_VN3ALO3H8gfZwoKwBg
>>> you can do much of VS + R# in sublime/vim if you spend the time to set
>>> it up.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Greg
>>>
>>> On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 1:45 PM, Alex J Lennon
>>> <ajlennon at dynamicdevices.co.uk> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > On 16/10/2014 12:38, Edward Ned Harvey (mono) wrote:
>>> >>> From: Alex J Lennon [mailto:ajlennon at dynamicdevices.co.uk]
>>> >>>
>>> >>>> Generally
>>> >>>> speaking, the only reasons to build on windows are because you want
>>> to
>>> >>>> debug the code, which is generally better done on mac/linux.  Or
>>> you're
>>> >>>> trying to accomplish something else, like obtain a specific DLL
>>> (such as
>>> >>>> Mono.Data.Sqlite)...  Which usually you can obtain some other way
>>> such as
>>> >>>> building on linux and then copying the DLL over to windows.
>>> >>> Agreed, but the the other reason is that you want to use a current
>>> Mono
>>> >>> yet nobody has gotten around to an official release of Mono for
>>> WIndows
>>> >>> since 3.2.3.
>>> >> Agreed, but that's the point - Why would you want to use Mono on
>>> windows?  The only reasons I know of are (a) you wish to debug the mono
>>> sources using Visual Studio, or (b) you wish to use one of Mono's
>>> assemblies in windows, such as Mono.Security, Mono.Data.Sqlite, etc.
>>> >>
>>> >> For case (a), at least for me, it's been easier to transition to
>>> Xamarin Studio or Monodevelop on mac/linux.
>>> >>
>>> >> For case (b) I was able to brainlessly copy Mono.Security.dll, and I
>>> struggled a little bit to copy Mono.Data.Sqlite.dll, but after a few tries,
>>> managed to get it right more easily than getting it to build natively on
>>> windows.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> > I guess different people will have different use-cases but this is ours
>>> > (which I don't think is so unique)
>>> >
>>> > We develop software targetting Embedded Linux, Windows desktop/server
>>> > and Windows CE/Embedded Compact with .NET CF.
>>> >
>>> > We use Visual Studio (plus Resharper as Bryan so rightly says -
>>> couldn't
>>> > get along without it) as we find this to be a productive development
>>> > environment.
>>> > In addition there is a lot of development resource out there with
>>> people
>>> > who know and are qualified on the VS toolchain.
>>> >
>>> > Ideally we'd be write once and it'd just work whatever the platform or
>>> > framework, but the reality is we run into platform dependencies (SQLite
>>> > as you say, serial comms in the past), native dependencies and
>>> > configuration issues.
>>> >
>>> > From a productivity perspective and for risk management for testing and
>>> > deployment I wish to be able to develop and debug under Visual Studio
>>> > with Mono as a framework option.
>>> >
>>> > I'd like to be able to do that with Mono on Windows as a check that no
>>> > issues come up between running on the .NET framework and running on
>>> Mono.
>>> >
>>> > In addition I'd like to be able to remote debug to Embedded Linux with
>>> > Visual Studio - which  I used to be able to do with Xamarin's Monotools
>>> > Server before it disappeared.
>>> >
>>> > I'm currently investigating a VS plugin to replace Monotools Server
>>> > which I've not had much luck with yet, but I'm optimistic:
>>> > https://github.com/DynamicDevices/monodebugvs
>>> >
>>> > Cheers,
>>> >
>>> > Alex
>>> >
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>> Bryan Crotaz
>> Managing Director
>> Silver Curve
>>
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> Bryan Crotaz
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> Silver Curve
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Bryan Crotaz
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