[Mono-dev] Cycle4 - Reminders (Mono-devel-list Digest, Vol 115, Issue 45)

[Miguel de Icaza]

Hey Alex,

I covered this on this mailing list a few weeks ago.

Discussing in a pull request is a terrible idea, as it keeps the discussion
away from the various people that might need to weigh on a particular
topic.   The discussion often involves the person submitting, and a couple
of curious people, but it does not reach all the stake holders.   It
requires constant monitoring and constant care.  And if someone does not
have the time to go and click through every discussion on pull request for
every project that matters, decisions happen in what amounts to closed
doors.

Sure, it is open.   Just like having a discussion in a caffe is, and making
decisions without other stake holders.

So while initially I was lukewarm at the idea of discussing things on pull
request, now I think it is actively damaging to open source projects.

Miguel

On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 12:34 PM, Alexander Köplinger <
alex.koeplinger at outlook.com> wrote:

> Tip: you can "unwatch" the repo on GitHub, then you only get notifications
> for threads you participated in.
>
> I'm a bit torn about mandating that every PR discussion needs to happen on
> this mailing list, mainly because I really like GitHub's UI and being able
> to track back the PR discussion from the commit.
>
> ... and I really don't feel comfortable with mailman sending me my
> plaintext password in 2014.
>
> -- Alex
>
> ------------------------------
> From: miguel at xamarin.com
> Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2014 12:10:03 -0500
> To: directhex at apebox.org
> CC: mono-devel-list at lists.ximian.com
> Subject: Re: [Mono-dev] Cycle4 - Reminders (Mono-devel-list Digest, Vol
> 115, Issue 45)
>
>
> Hello,
>
> I think we need to have a deeper discussion on the PR1297.
>
> I do not think that we should have these discussions on the pull requests,
> this is a great example of another pull request discussion that just got
> lost.   GitHub is very spammy with notifications, so I personally just
> filter that out (and so do many other people).
>
> Pull requests should be discussed in this mailing list.
>
> On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 8:05 AM, Jo Shields <directhex at apebox.org> wrote:
>
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> On 25/11/14 23:00, Rodrigo Kumpera wrote:
> > Hi ppl,
> >
> > We're rounding up mono 3.12 as we speak. (y'all probably heard the
> > github gossip about such a branch existing ;)
> >
> > This would be a great opportunity to gather feedback on what
> > blocking bugs you've been facing that can be quickly addressed for
> > this release.
>
> It'd be great to get PR1297 and PR1319 sorted in time for 3.12, plus a
> bunch of recent Windows/MSVC commits so I can work towards a stable
> 3.12 Windows installer:
>
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