[Mono-dev] Mono and ASP.NET vNext

Thu May 15 16:55:37 UTC 2014

Hello,

Well, i want to see a prototype, and then decide.

So this needs to be done with some kind of peer framework where this is
done.

On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 9:29 AM, Greg Young <gregoryyoung1 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Yes I would say moving both to libuv would be a good move :)
>
>
> On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 4:22 PM, Roope Kangas <roope at grandcrugames.com>wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> On a tangent...
>>
>> It would be really nice if something like libuv would the thing behind
>> Socket code.
>>
>> Could that be something to investigate?
>>
>> Mono could basically piggyback on nodejs development.
>>
>> --
>> Roope Kangas
>>
>> On 15.5.2014, at 15.00, Greg Young <gregoryyoung1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> So the one issue I have seen with the libevent implementation is that it
>> seems to perform very poorly in windows (+-5k hello worlds/second where as
>> its closer to 100k/second in linux). From researching libevent they
>> supposedly now use IOCP in windows and should be better but I have not been
>> able to make this happen. It may also be worth looking at libuv which is
>> pretty close to a drop in replacement for libevent as it seems to get much
>> better performance in windows and similar performance in linux. @Nikita I
>> will hopefully have some time next week and likely will send some more pull
>> requests in relation to the memory allocation patterns.
>>
>>
>> On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 6:56 AM, Miguel de Icaza <miguel at xamarin.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Hello Nikita!
>>>
>>> Your approach looks fabulous!   I look forward to trying it out!
>>>
>>> Miguel
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 11:40 AM, Nikita Tsukanov <keks9n at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'll try to implement OWIN host on top of my libevent built-in http
>>>> server ( https://github.com/kekekeks/evhttp-sharp ) since for now it's
>>>> the fastest thing for handling HTTP-requests on Mono I know (now it has
>>>> host implementation for NancyFx which we are using in production for half
>>>> of a year).
>>>> Although both evhttp-sharp and FastCGI servers like HyperFastCGI and
>>>> Fos, are incapable of serving websockets (one because of underlying
>>>> implementation, another because of limitations of FastCGI protocol), so it
>>>> would be great to wrap something like
>>>> https://github.com/kekekeks/evhttp-sharp which has websocket support
>>>> and positioned as evhttp drop-in replacement.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Nikita
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2014-05-14 19:29 GMT+04:00 Marcelo Zabani <mzabani at gmail.com>:
>>>>
>>>> Wow! This is such great news!!
>>>>>
>>>>> As for running Owin applications with Unix HTTP servers, I've
>>>>> developed Fos <http://github.com/mzabani/Fos> on a very permissive
>>>>> license and a focus on good documentation and running with Mono on *nix. I
>>>>> would very much love getting contributions on this, because my spare time
>>>>> is running lower these days.
>>>>>
>>>>> Hope it helps,
>>>>> Marcelo.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 12:44 AM, Miguel de Icaza <miguel at xamarin.com>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello guys!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Microsoft has open sourced ASP.NET vNext:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://github.com/aspnet/home
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is an entire new web stack that only needs the core of Mono
>>>>>> (does not even use System.Web.dll!).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So these are of course great news, because (a) The core Mono has been
>>>>>> in active development, and (b) that means that Mono's on the server can be
>>>>>> used without all those pesky limitations that have been plaguing us for
>>>>>> years.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So we ran into a couple of limitations in Mono: some classes that
>>>>>> they need are not implemented (I filed a bug, and a couple of Xamarin folks
>>>>>> decided to take on that on their copious spare time) and we have a couple
>>>>>> of bugs on FileSystemWatcher on OSX.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But this is a great time to:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>    - Get involved with the github.com/aspnet project and submit
>>>>>>    contributions that will make the software run on Unix.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>    - Look into technologies like Owin and Katana (sp?) and help us
>>>>>>    have a story that plugs into Unix HTTP servers (the equivalent of our
>>>>>>    bridge between Apache and mono: mod_mono, or our Fast CGI bridge to mono).
>>>>>>
>>>>>>    - Take Mono's new profiling tools and performance counters for a
>>>>>>    spin and help us fine tune the runtime to run .NET code faster on Unix than
>>>>>>    you can on Windows.  While this is a tall order, my friend David Miller
>>>>>>    would expect nothing less from us.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hugs and love,
>>>>>> Miguel
>>>>>>
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