[Mono-dev] Mono and ASP.NET vNext

Thu May 15 13:59:43 UTC 2014

Hello,

On the surface, it sounds like an interesting idea and I would love to see
someone prototype this.

Today our async methods on the socket class delegate the waiting and
waiting/wakeup capabilities to the C runtime and there they use a
per-platform dispatching system (epoll, kqueue or regular poll depending on
the platform).

Miguel

On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 9:22 AM, Roope Kangas <roope at grandcrugames.com>wrote:

> Hi,
>
> On a tangent...
>
> It would be really nice if something like libuv would the thing behind
> Socket code.
>
> Could that be something to investigate?
>
> Mono could basically piggyback on nodejs development.
>
> --
> Roope Kangas
>
> On 15.5.2014, at 15.00, Greg Young <gregoryyoung1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> So the one issue I have seen with the libevent implementation is that it
> seems to perform very poorly in windows (+-5k hello worlds/second where as
> its closer to 100k/second in linux). From researching libevent they
> supposedly now use IOCP in windows and should be better but I have not been
> able to make this happen. It may also be worth looking at libuv which is
> pretty close to a drop in replacement for libevent as it seems to get much
> better performance in windows and similar performance in linux. @Nikita I
> will hopefully have some time next week and likely will send some more pull
> requests in relation to the memory allocation patterns.
>
>
> On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 6:56 AM, Miguel de Icaza <miguel at xamarin.com>wrote:
>
>> Hello Nikita!
>>
>> Your approach looks fabulous!   I look forward to trying it out!
>>
>> Miguel
>>
>>
>> On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 11:40 AM, Nikita Tsukanov <keks9n at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> I'll try to implement OWIN host on top of my libevent built-in http
>>> server ( https://github.com/kekekeks/evhttp-sharp ) since for now it's
>>> the fastest thing for handling HTTP-requests on Mono I know (now it has
>>> host implementation for NancyFx which we are using in production for half
>>> of a year).
>>> Although both evhttp-sharp and FastCGI servers like HyperFastCGI and
>>> Fos, are incapable of serving websockets (one because of underlying
>>> implementation, another because of limitations of FastCGI protocol), so it
>>> would be great to wrap something like
>>> https://github.com/kekekeks/evhttp-sharp which has websocket support
>>> and positioned as evhttp drop-in replacement.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Nikita
>>>
>>>
>>> 2014-05-14 19:29 GMT+04:00 Marcelo Zabani <mzabani at gmail.com>:
>>>
>>> Wow! This is such great news!!
>>>>
>>>> As for running Owin applications with Unix HTTP servers, I've developed
>>>> Fos <http://github.com/mzabani/Fos> on a very permissive license and a
>>>> focus on good documentation and running with Mono on *nix. I would very
>>>> much love getting contributions on this, because my spare time is running
>>>> lower these days.
>>>>
>>>> Hope it helps,
>>>> Marcelo.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 12:44 AM, Miguel de Icaza <miguel at xamarin.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hello guys!
>>>>>
>>>>> Microsoft has open sourced ASP.NET vNext:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://github.com/aspnet/home
>>>>>
>>>>> This is an entire new web stack that only needs the core of Mono (does
>>>>> not even use System.Web.dll!).
>>>>>
>>>>> So these are of course great news, because (a) The core Mono has been
>>>>> in active development, and (b) that means that Mono's on the server can be
>>>>> used without all those pesky limitations that have been plaguing us for
>>>>> years.
>>>>>
>>>>> So we ran into a couple of limitations in Mono: some classes that they
>>>>> need are not implemented (I filed a bug, and a couple of Xamarin folks
>>>>> decided to take on that on their copious spare time) and we have a couple
>>>>> of bugs on FileSystemWatcher on OSX.
>>>>>
>>>>> But this is a great time to:
>>>>>
>>>>>    - Get involved with the github.com/aspnet project and submit
>>>>>    contributions that will make the software run on Unix.
>>>>>
>>>>>    - Look into technologies like Owin and Katana (sp?) and help us
>>>>>    have a story that plugs into Unix HTTP servers (the equivalent of our
>>>>>    bridge between Apache and mono: mod_mono, or our Fast CGI bridge to mono).
>>>>>
>>>>>    - Take Mono's new profiling tools and performance counters for a
>>>>>    spin and help us fine tune the runtime to run .NET code faster on Unix than
>>>>>    you can on Windows.  While this is a tall order, my friend David Miller
>>>>>    would expect nothing less from us.
>>>>>
>>>>> Hugs and love,
>>>>> Miguel
>>>>>
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