[Mono-dev] Repeat builds of core assemblies

Alex J Lennon ajlennon at dynamicdevices.co.uk
Mon May 12 16:49:53 UTC 2014


On 12/05/2014 17:35, Bryan Crotaz wrote:
> There's a lot of references in your document to build failures and
> potential future build failures.
>
> Can I suggest that pull-requests are only accepted if they don't break
> the build?  It's surely the developer's responsibility to make sure
> that they haven't created any conflicts, or have correctly documented
> extra cygwin packages that are needed, or have correctly edited the
> Windows installer to include all the correct files.
>
> This way, newbie contributors can be guaranteed that they can download
> the latest default branch from git and can build it.  Then they can
> get on with being productive instead of being put off by a whole load
> of errors they won't understand.
>

I'm just somebody who believes in Mono and would like to help faciliate
others to be able to use it as I do.

I do hope the folks behind Mono come back to your on your suggestion
though, as I too believe that with a little
effort each release tarball could be QA'd to be sure it builds without
error on each target platform.

I believe time spent that way would go a long way to drive acceptance of
Mono as a viable alternative for businesses.

Cheers, Alex

> Bryan
>
>
> On 12 May 2014 17:30, Bryan Crotaz <bryan.crotaz at silvercurve.co.uk
> <mailto:bryan.crotaz at silvercurve.co.uk>> wrote:
>
>     Ooooh pretty.....  Will give it a go.
>
>     Can the build script be extended to install needed cygwin packages
>     if they're missing?  When I first tried to build I had no idea how
>     to find the packages, or how to install them - for newbie
>     contributors this would remove a lot (in my case 2 days) of head
>     scratching.
>
>
>     On 12 May 2014 17:23, Alex J Lennon <ajlennon at dynamicdevices.co.uk
>     <mailto:ajlennon at dynamicdevices.co.uk>> wrote:
>
>
>         On 12/05/2014 17:07, Bryan Crotaz wrote:
>>         Will this make building on windows possible?
>>
>         Bryan,
>
>         I've written a walkthrough here for building 3.4.0 from the
>         release tarball and 3.4.1 from git on Windows.
>
>         http://www.codeproject.com/Articles/769292/How-to-build-Mono-on-Windows
>
>         Best regards, Alex
>
>
>>         Bryan Crotaz
>>         Silver Curve
>>
>>         On 12 May 2014, at 16:59, Miguel de Icaza <miguel at xamarin.com
>>         <mailto:miguel at xamarin.com>> wrote:
>>
>>>         Hey guys,
>>>
>>>         Another update: I am almost done with the work, only one
>>>         cycle left to resolve and I will be able to land the changes.
>>>
>>>         All the changes are on a branch on github.
>>>
>>>         MIguel
>>>
>>>
>>>         On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 4:27 PM, Miguel de Icaza
>>>         <miguel at xamarin.com <mailto:miguel at xamarin.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>>             Hello guys,
>>>
>>>             Just a follow up to my previous posting on this.
>>>
>>>             I have managed to untangle this mess, and now I have a
>>>             clean build that does not involve overwriting assemblies.
>>>
>>>             In addition to untangling this, I added dependencies on
>>>             all the assemblies involved in this circular dependency
>>>             mess so if you type "make" in any of System, System.Xml,
>>>             System.Security, Mono.Security or System.Configuration,
>>>             all the dependencies will be properly built.
>>>
>>>             During the fixing, I noticed that our System.Xml build
>>>             must have broke a few eons ago, because there was code
>>>             in place to perform a 2-stage System.Xml build as well
>>>             (without and with System.Configuration support), but
>>>             nobody noticed that this had happened.   While I fixed
>>>             this, it raises the obvious point that nobody really
>>>             cares (or likes) System.Configuration.
>>>
>>>             While doing this review, I found a few other places that
>>>             also have these ugly loops, so I am going to be fixing
>>>             those as well.
>>>
>>>             Miguel
>>>
>>>
>>>             On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 3:53 PM, Miguel de Icaza
>>>             <miguel at xamarin.com <mailto:miguel at xamarin.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>>                 Hey guys,
>>>
>>>                 I was looking at making the MSBuild system work, and
>>>                 during the process I have encountered a few problems
>>>                 that we have in our existing build system that are
>>>                 problematic.
>>>
>>>                 The problem is that System, System.XML and
>>>                 System.Configuration are each defined in terms of
>>>                 the other assemblies.   So we gradually bring up
>>>                 each one of those assemblies up by first compiling a
>>>                 stub System, which we use to build System.XML and
>>>                 System.Configuration.   Then we rebuild System, this
>>>                 time referencing System.XML and System.Configuration
>>>                 so we can take a dependency on them, and so on.
>>>
>>>                 To build a complete System.dll for a particular
>>>                 profile (net_2_0, net_4_0, etc) takes three steps: 
>>>
>>>                   * Core Build
>>>                   * Secondary Build:
>>>                       o Core Build + 
>>>                       o Defines: XML_DEP + SECURITY_DEP
>>>                       o Refs: 
>>>                           + -r:PrebuiltSystem=../lib/Previous/System.dll 
>>>                           + -r:System.Xml.dll
>>>                           + -r:MonoSecurity=Mono.Security.dll
>>>                   * Final Build:
>>>                       o Secondary Build + 
>>>                       o defines: -d:CONFIGURATION_DEP
>>>                       o Refs:
>>>                           + System.Configuration.dll
>>>
>>>                 The above is what is required to bring up System.
>>>
>>>                 Our implementation has one major problem: it
>>>                 overwrites the intermediate files.  So the core
>>>                 build output is overwritten by the secondary build,
>>>                 and the secondary build is overwritten by the final
>>>                 build.
>>>
>>>                 It seems that historically, instead of introducing
>>>                 temporary directories for each stage, instead we
>>>                 hacked our way out of it.   We introduced a
>>>                 LIBRARY_USE_INTERMEDIATE_FILE whose sole purpose was
>>>                 to work around the case where Windows was actively
>>>                 telling us we were doing something wrong (we were
>>>                 overwriting a file that we were actively referencing!)
>>>
>>>                 The above is also likely going to prevent reliable
>>>                 parallel builds, or probably means that we
>>>                 introduced some gross hack to make the above work in
>>>                 parallel.
>>>
>>>                 I am going to try to fix this, but the Makefile goop
>>>                 is pretty dense, and I might fail.   I just figured
>>>                 I should share my findings in case civilization
>>>                 comes to an end and a future archeologist tries to
>>>                 figure out why this was not working.
>>>
>>>                 These are the defines that we use to bring up System
>>>                 for each profile:
>>>
>>>                 basic Profile:
>>>
>>>                 basic: -d:NET_1_1 -d:NET_2_0 -d:BOOTSTRAP_BASIC
>>>                 -d:CONFIGURATION_2_0
>>>
>>>                 basic: -d:NET_1_1 -d:NET_2_0 -d:BOOTSTRAP_BASIC
>>>                 -d:CONFIGURATION_2_0 -d:XML_DEP
>>>
>>>
>>>                 Build Profile:
>>>
>>>                 build: -d:NET_1_1 -d:NET_2_0 -d:NET_3_0 -d:NET_3_5
>>>                 -d:NET_4_0 -d:CONFIGURATION_2_0
>>>
>>>                 build: -d:NET_1_1 -d:NET_2_0 -d:NET_3_0 -d:NET_3_5
>>>                 -d:NET_4_0 -d:CONFIGURATION_2_0  -d:XML_DEP
>>>
>>>
>>>                 Net 2.0 profile:
>>>
>>>                 net_2_0: -d:NET_1_1 -d:NET_2_0  -d:CONFIGURATION_2_0
>>>
>>>                 net_2_0: -d:NET_1_1 -d:NET_2_0 
>>>                 -d:CONFIGURATION_2_0  -d:XML_DEP -d:SECURITY_DEP 
>>>
>>>                 net_2_0: -d:NET_1_1 -d:NET_2_0 
>>>                 -d:CONFIGURATION_2_0  -d:XML_DEP -d:SECURITY_DEP
>>>                 -d:CONFIGURATION_DEP 
>>>
>>>
>>>                 Net 4.0 profile:
>>>
>>>                 net_4_0: -d:NET_1_1 -d:NET_2_0 -d:NET_3_0 -d:NET_3_5
>>>                 -d:NET_4_0 -d:CONFIGURATION_2_0
>>>
>>>                 net_4_0: -d:NET_1_1 -d:NET_2_0 -d:NET_3_0 -d:NET_3_5
>>>                 -d:NET_4_0 -d:CONFIGURATION_2_0 -d:XML_DEP 
>>>                 -d:SECURITY_DEP
>>>
>>>                 net_4_0: -d:NET_1_1 -d:NET_2_0 -d:NET_3_0 -d:NET_3_5
>>>                 -d:NET_4_0 -d:CONFIGURATION_2_0 -d:XML_DEP 
>>>                 -d:SECURITY_DEP  -d:CONFIGURATION_DEP
>>>
>>>
>>>                 Net 4.5 profile:
>>>
>>>                 net_4_5: -d:NET_1_1 -d:NET_2_0 -d:NET_3_0 -d:NET_3_5
>>>                 -d:NET_4_0 -d:NET_4_5 -d:CONFIGURATION_2_0 
>>>
>>>                 net_4_5: -d:NET_1_1 -d:NET_2_0 -d:NET_3_0 -d:NET_3_5
>>>                 -d:NET_4_0 -d:NET_4_5 -d:CONFIGURATION_2_0
>>>                 -d:XML_DEP  -d:SECURITY_DEP 
>>>
>>>                 net_4_5: -d:NET_1_1 -d:NET_2_0 -d:NET_3_0 -d:NET_3_5
>>>                 -d:NET_4_0 -d:NET_4_5 -d:CONFIGURATION_2_0 
>>>                 -d:XML_DEP -d:SECURITY_DEP -d:CONFIGURATION_DEP 
>>>
>>>
>>>                 Miguel
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>     -- 
>     Bryan Crotaz
>     Managing Director
>     Silver Curve
>
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> Bryan Crotaz
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