[Mono-dev] Still seeking contractor to adding Tizen support to Mono

Bob Summerwill bob at summerwill.net
Sat Jun 14 07:37:52 UTC 2014


Great - thanks for the info!



On Sat, Jun 14, 2014 at 12:33 AM, Alex Rønne Petersen <alex at alexrp.com>
wrote:

> Nothing much has to be done on slave VMs other than installing
> necessary software to build/run Mono. Jenkins connects to slaves via
> plain old SSH.
>
> Note that I need an account with sudo access on all VMs hooked up to
> http://monojenkins.cloudapp.net/.
>
> On Sat, Jun 14, 2014 at 9:16 AM, Bob Summerwill <bob at summerwill.net>
> wrote:
> > Great - so for the Tizen test-cases, Damien should probably get an
> > equivalent set of automation running on an Azure VM, and then we should
> work
> > out how to incorporate that VM into your Jenkins instance?
> >
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Bob
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Jun 14, 2014 at 12:07 AM, Alex Rønne Petersen <alex at alexrp.com>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> Xamarin pays for the current infrastructure and the upcoming x86 VMs
> >> we're going to add to it. That doesn't stop anyone from contributing
> >> more infrastructure.
> >>
> >> The build automation inside Xamarin for our commercial products is
> >> based on Wrench.
> >>
> >> On Sat, Jun 14, 2014 at 9:03 AM, Bob Summerwill <bob at summerwill.net>
> >> wrote:
> >> > Thanks for the information, Alex.
> >> >
> >> > Is that Xamarin-funded infrastructure?    Or something which you set
> up
> >> > outside of Xamarin prior to your employment?
> >> >
> >> > If there is some way in which we can ensure that non-Xamarin-employees
> >> > working on Mono can contribute to that automation setup, that would be
> >> > splendid.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Cheers,
> >> > Bob
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 11:23 PM, Alex Rønne Petersen <
> alex at alexrp.com>
> >> > wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> Yes, http://monojenkins.cloudapp.net/ is what is used to test the
> >> >> major projects under the Mono org on Linux, and also to test pull
> >> >> requests.
> >> >>
> >> >> We will soon be changing the setup there to accommodate
> >> >> multi-configuration builds (e.g. x86, amd64, linux, os x, ...) so if
> >> >> you have machines you'd like to contribute, that can definitely be
> >> >> arranged.
> >> >>
> >> >> Note that for each platform, we'd need 4 machines at minimum to be
> >> >> able to keep up on busy days. The Small (A1) Azure tier seems to work
> >> >> well enough for this purpose.
> >> >>
> >> >> On Sat, Jun 14, 2014 at 12:46 AM, Bob Summerwill <bob at summerwill.net
> >
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > It looks like it might be https://github.com/alexrp (Alex Rønne
> >> >> > Petersen).
> >> >> > CC-ed.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 3:18 PM, Sergey Zhukov <svg at ngs.ru> wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Also I've found this link, don't know who maintains it
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> http://monojenkins.cloudapp.net/
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> On Fri, 2014-06-13 at 15:07 -0700, Bob Summerwill wrote:
> >> >> >> > Right, so maybe this is more a case of the website not getting
> >> >> >> > enough
> >> >> >> > love?
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > We should still have automation independent of Xamarin, though.
> >> >> >> > Mono != Xamarin.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Cheers,
> >> >> >> > Bob
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 3:04 PM, Sergey Zhukov <svg at ngs.ru>
> wrote:
> >> >> >> >         AFAIK, Xamarin uses this for mono (it's working link)
> >> >> >> >         https://wrench.mono-project.com/Wrench/
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >         also I've seen travis scripts in the mono tree some time
> >> >> >> > ago
> >> >> >> >         (some of
> >> >> >> >         them or even all were removed)
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >         On Fri, 2014-06-13 at 14:47 -0700, Bob Summerwill wrote:
> >> >> >> >         >
> >> >> >> >         > But there is no centrally maintained automated build
> >> >> >> >         instance right
> >> >> >> >         > now, correct?    Or incorrect?
> >> >> >> >         >
> >> >> >> >         >
> >> >> >> >         >
> >> >> >> >         >
> >> >> >> >         >
> >> >> >> >         > On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 2:44 PM, Sergey Zhukov
> >> >> >> > <svg at ngs.ru>
> >> >> >> >         wrote:
> >> >> >> >         >         Anybody can use Travis.CI or drone.io as
> build
> >> >> >> >         system. They
> >> >> >> >         >         can run
> >> >> >> >         >         tests on different platforms. For example,
> here
> >> >> >> > the
> >> >> >> >         post how
> >> >> >> >         >         to run
> >> >> >> >         >         tests on ARM platform using Travis.CI.
> >> >> >> >         >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> http://www.tomaz.me/2013/12/02/running-travis-ci-tests-on-arm.html
> >> >> >> >         >
> >> >> >> >         >         Also Travis.CI has built-in support for OSX
> and
> >> >> >> >         Ubuntu
> >> >> >> >         >         operating
> >> >> >> >         >         systems. So it's possible to write script,
> which
> >> >> >> >         will test
> >> >> >> >         >         mono across
> >> >> >> >         >         several tizen platforms the only bad thing
> could
> >> >> >> > be
> >> >> >> >         a build
> >> >> >> >         >         time
> >> >> >> >         >         limitation.
> >> >> >> >         >
> >> >> >> >         >
> >> >> >> >         >         On Fri, 2014-06-13 at 14:27 -0700, Bob
> >> >> >> > Summerwill
> >> >> >> >         wrote:
> >> >> >> >         >         >
> >> >> >> >         >         > Please could somebody confirm that there is
> no
> >> >> >> >         existing Mono
> >> >> >> >         >         project
> >> >> >> >         >         > automation?
> >> >> >> >         >         >
> >> >> >> >         >         > Outside of whatever Xamarin do for their own
> >> >> >> >         needs, I mean?
> >> >> >> >         >         Thanks!
> >> >> >> >         >         >
> >> >> >> >         >         >
> >> >> >> >         >         > Cheers,
> >> >> >> >         >         > Bob
> >> >> >> >         >         >
> >> >> >> >         >         >
> >> >> >> >         >         >
> >> >> >> >         >         >
> >> >> >> >         >         > On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 2:21 PM, Sergey
> Zhukov
> >> >> >> >         <svg at ngs.ru>
> >> >> >> >         >         wrote:
> >> >> >> >         >         >         They all do the same things, the
> only
> >> >> >> >         difference
> >> >> >> >         >         what I see is
> >> >> >> >         >         >         a pricing
> >> >> >> >         >         >         and limitations for cloud-based
> >> >> >> >         jenkins/drone/travis
> >> >> >> >         >         (don't
> >> >> >> >         >         >         know is
> >> >> >> >         >         >         there a cloud-based TeamCity
> >> >> >> > services).
> >> >> >> >         CloudBees
> >> >> >> >         >         based on
> >> >> >> >         >         >         Jenkins has
> >> >> >> >         >         >         100 min/month for free projects
> while
> >> >> >> >         drone.io does
> >> >> >> >         >         not have
> >> >> >> >         >         >         monthly
> >> >> >> >         >         >         limitations for open source. But
> >> >> >> > drone.io
> >> >> >> >         has 30-min
> >> >> >> >         >         >         compile-time
> >> >> >> >         >         >         limitation which they say can be
> >> >> >> > removed.
> >> >> >> >         Travis.CI
> >> >> >> >         >         site says
> >> >> >> >         >         >         that there
> >> >> >> >         >         >         are no limitation for open source
> >> >> >> >         projects, but
> >> >> >> >         >         somewhere I
> >> >> >> >         >         >         saw that it
> >> >> >> >         >         >         has 1 hour limit to compile time.
> >> >> >> >         >         >
> >> >> >> >         >         >         For open-source project it's a good
> to
> >> >> >> >         have ability
> >> >> >> >         >         to avoid
> >> >> >> >         >         >         thinking
> >> >> >> >         >         >         about additional infrastructure for
> >> >> >> > CI,
> >> >> >> >         its cost and
> >> >> >> >         >         >         maintenance. So in
> >> >> >> >         >         >         this case using cloud-based travis
> or
> >> >> >> >         drone can help
> >> >> >> >         >         devs to
> >> >> >> >         >         >         concentrate
> >> >> >> >         >         >         on software itself without spending
> >> >> >> > their
> >> >> >> >         time and
> >> >> >> >         >         money to
> >> >> >> >         >         >         supporting
> >> >> >> >         >         >         internal CI build server.
> >> >> >> >         >         >
> >> >> >> >         >         >
> >> >> >> >         >         >         On Fri, 2014-06-13 at 12:24 -0700,
> >> >> >> > Daniel
> >> >> >> >         Lo Nigro
> >> >> >> >         >         wrote:
> >> >> >> >         >         >         >         Maybe drone could be used
> >> >> >> > for
> >> >> >> >         >         >         >         CI.
> >> >> >> >         https://github.com/drone/drone/
> >> >> >> >         >         >         >
> >> >> >> >         >         >         >
> >> >> >> >         >         >         > What does Drone do that other more
> >> >> >> >         common CI
> >> >> >> >         >         systems like
> >> >> >> >         >         >         Jenkins and
> >> >> >> >         >         >         > TeamCity don't do?
> >> >> >> >         >         >         >
> >> >> >> >         >         >         >
> >> >> >> >         >         >         > On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 11:59 AM,
> >> >> >> > Sergey
> >> >> >> >         Zhukov
> >> >> >> >         >         <svg at ngs.ru>
> >> >> >> >         >         >         wrote:
> >> >> >> >         >         >         >         On Fri, 2014-06-13 at
> 09:12
> >> >> >> >         -0700, Bob
> >> >> >> >         >         Summerwill
> >> >> >> >         >         >         wrote:
> >> >> >> >         >         >         >
> >> >> >> >         >         >         >
> >> >> >> >         >         >         >         Maybe drone could be used
> >> >> >> > for
> >> >> >> >         CI.
> >> >> >> >         >         >         >
> >> >> >> > https://github.com/drone/drone/
> >> >> >> >         >         >         >
> >> >> >> >         >         >         >         Also for open-source
> project
> >> >> >> > you
> >> >> >> >         can try
> >> >> >> >         >         travis.ci,
> >> >> >> >         >         >         but it has
> >> >> >> >         >         >         >         one-hour
> >> >> >> >         >         >         >         limit for running what can
> >> >> >> > be
> >> >> >> >         critical for
> >> >> >> >         >         running
> >> >> >> >         >         >         mono tests
> >> >> >> >         >         >         >         inside the
> >> >> >> >         >         >         >         tizen emulator.
> >> >> >> >         >         >         >
> >> >> >> >         >         >         >         >
> >> >> >> >         >         >         >         > For Tizen at least I
> would
> >> >> >> >         like to get
> >> >> >> >         >         automated
> >> >> >> >         >         >         builds and
> >> >> >> >         >         >         >         runs going
> >> >> >> >         >         >         >         > within Windows Azure VMs
> >> >> >> > which
> >> >> >> >         I will
> >> >> >> >         >         "sponsor"
> >> >> >> >         >         >         the costs of
> >> >> >> >         >         >         >         runnin.
> >> >> >> >         >         >         >         > Is there an existing
> >> >> >> >         automation
> >> >> >> >         >         infrastructure for
> >> >> >> >         >         >         this to
> >> >> >> >         >         >         >         be added
> >> >> >> >         >         >         >         > to?   Thanks!
> >> >> >> >         >         >         >         >
> >> >> >> >         >         >         >         >
> >> >> >> >         >         >         >
> >> >> >> >         >         >         >
> >> >> >> >         >         >         >
> >> >> >> >         >         >         >
> >> >> >> >         >         >         >
> >> >> >> >         >
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> >> >> >> >         >
> >> >> >> >
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> >> >> >> >         >         >         >
> >> >> >> >         >         >         >
> >> >> >> >         >         >
> >> >> >> >         >         >
> >> >> >> >         >         >
> >> >> >> >         _______________________________________________
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> >> >> >> >         >         > --
> >> >> >> >         >         > bob at summerwill.net
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> >> >> >> > --
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> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >>
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> >> >> > --
> >> >> > bob at summerwill.net
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
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> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > bob at summerwill.net
> >> >
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> >
> >
> > --
> > bob at summerwill.net
> >
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