[Mono-dev] ***UNCHECKED*** RE: Re: Ongoing Mono development / Mono roadmap
Alex J Lennon
ajlennon at dynamicdevices.co.uk
Wed Apr 9 21:36:46 UTC 2014
On 09/04/2014 22:27, Chris Tacke wrote:
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> If you take a look at the live repository for Mono, you can see that
> Xamarin employees regularly update the source code (there are changes
> from 2 hours ago). That places the statement that "Xamarin are unable
> to work on Mono" clearly into the FUD column.
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> Mono is actively being fixed and improved by Xamarin and others.
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Many thanks for bringing clarity to this for me Chris. As we're in a
public forum I hope hope you won't mind me referencing this discussion
now and in future when it is suggested to me that Xamarin have abandoned
Mono.
> -Chris
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> J Lennon
> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 09, 2014 4:18 PM
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> *Subject:* Re: [Mono-dev] ***UNCHECKED*** Re: Ongoing Mono development
> / Mono roadmap
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> On 09/04/2014 22:00, Robert Jordan wrote:
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> Were you living under a stone the past couple of years? :D
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> Just trying to understand the realities Robert :-D
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> You're mixing up Mono & MonoTouch like they were the same
> and don't seem to understand how these technologies
> are interwoven.
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> Mono is an Open Source .NET implementation, while MonoTouch
> (now Xamarin.iOS) is a spin-off with a lot of enhancements
> targeted to mobile development. But at its core, it's still
> Mono and its BCL.
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> Mono's death, as you put it, would imply that Xamarin were
> sooner or later out of business. It doesn't look so.
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> A key component of what I was told toay is that Xamarin are unable to
> work on Mono due to contractual obligations to Attachmate. As a
> result they are (I am told) abandoning Mono and doing something
> else which is the (presumably) VM underneath the Xamarin tooling.
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> I guess I'm looking for confirmation that either this is true, or
> is some strange new form of FUD :) This comes from a discussion which
> was originally about Microsoft open sourcing (ish, bits of) .Net.
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> I care, because I think Mono is pretty fantastic, it allows me to retarget
> products my business creates to embedded devices running Linux, and
> I want to see it continue and grow. If the "death" of Mono were to be a
> reality I would need to rethink some objectives.
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> Which is why I asked you guys, because I figure if anybody can give me
> a categorical answer then it is the developers...
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> The truth is rather that *parts* of the Mono framework became
> less important for Xamarin, as they are solely focused on mobile
> nowadays.
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> Which parts these are, should be too hard to figure out.
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> Robert
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> On 09.04.2014 21:36, Alex J Lennon wrote:
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> Hi,
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> I became involved in a conversation today on LinkedIn in which a
> commentator was telling me Mono is "dead", due to contractual
> constraints imposed on Xamarin by the "legal owners" of Mono,
> Attachmate.
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> A snippet of the ensuing conversation follows,
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> "In July 2011, however, Novell - now a subsidiary of
> Attachmate - and
> Xamarin announced that Novell had granted a perpetual license
> for Mono,
> MonoTouch and Mono for Android to Xamarin, which formally and
> legally
> took official stewardship of the project."
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> It also says as follows: " ...the future of the project was
> questioned,
> since MonoTouch and Mono for Android would now be in direct
> competition
> with the existing commercial offerings owned by Attachmate. It
> was not
> known at the time how Xamarin would prove they had not
> illegally used
> technologies previously developed when they were employed by
> Novell for
> the same work".
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> In the Mono project website (www.mono-project.com
> <http://www.mono-project.com>), you have three main
> offerings, Mono, Xamarin.iOS and Xamarin.Android, and you can
> find a
> link (at the bottom left corner of the page) to Xamarin's
> website.
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> It is clear that this is a strategy by Xamarin to offer MonoTouch
> developers a migration path to Xamarin tools, and not much
> more than that.
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> To be able to woo Mono developers to Xamarin, Novell
> (Attachmate) and
> Xamarin cut this deal, because it is of mutual convenience to
> the two of
> them.
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> But from any real perspective of active development of the
> platform,
> Mono is dead".
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> ...
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> This doesn't square at all for me with the near-monthly
> releases I've
> been seeing with functional enhancements I've been needing,
> such as ARM
> hardfp (great work, thanks).
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> Would anybody care to comment on whether there's a kernel of
> truth here
> or what the roadmap for Mono development currently is?
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> Thanks,
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> Alex
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