[Mono-dev] Qt anyone?

Wed Feb 18 06:34:51 EST 2009

Hey,

I pinged the maintainers of the kdebindings package for opensuse and asked
if they were building qyoto. Turns out it's disabled by default by them.
They are now taking a look at creating qyoto packages for opensuse. I assume
this will cover 11.0 and higher. So if you're interested in this, let them
know:

http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/3896

Alan.

On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 4:32 PM, Arno Rehn <mono-devel at arnorehn.de> wrote:

> On Wednesday 11 February 2009 23:12:52 you wrote:
> > Hi Arno,
> >
> > I think Qyoto is a really great initiative and a really strong point to
> > make Mono shine.
> >
> > But I wonder if you have plans (and resources) to:
> >
> > - Relaunch a website with information/tutorials/downloads. It doesn't
> > matter how good Qyoto is if no one can easily find it.
> We will definitely put up stuff on techbase.kde.org, but I don't know if
> we'll
> relaunch a full blown website. Maybe something on sourceforge, we'll see.
>
> > - Publish builds on the different OSs. IMHO what makes Qyoto rock is
> > being able to create native GUIs for Solaris/Linux/Windows/Mac with a
> > single codebase and minor tweaks. If we only have Linux, then sticking
> > to WinForms or GTK# is still better, if only Mac I guess monoobjc is the
> > right solution, and so on.
> Yes, we'll do that once we have time to build it on windows and os x.
>
> > I think monoobjc is the perfect example: they've a solid website, full
> > of samples, which gives a very good feeling when you enter it. You
> > immediately think "hey, this is a solid solution".
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > pablo
> >
> > Arno Rehn escribió:
> > > On Linux it's pretty straight forward. Download a recent kde-bindings
> > > tarball and extract it somewhere. Build it as every other KDE module
> with
> > > cmake. Create a build directory, do "cd build-dir; ccmake src-dir".
> > > Disable the stuff you don't want/don't need, like Soprano or Nepomuk
> > > bindings. Then just "make; make install" as usual.
> > > We haven't tried building on Solaris yet. On OS X someone got it
> working,
> > > but there seem to be issues with header files not being correctly
> found.
> > > You might have to play a bit to get it working there.
> > >
> > > On Friday 06 February 2009 20:36:29 pablosantosluac at terra.es wrote:
> > >> are there tutorials to build on Mac/Linux/Solaris?
> > >>
> > >> Daniel Morgan escribió:
> > >>> Qyoto / Kimono Project
> > >>> http://ekarchive.elikirk.com/david/qyoto/
> > >>>
> > >>> Here is a different project with a similar goal of creating CLR
> > >>> bindings for qt - qt4dotnet http://code.google.com/p/qt4dotnet/
> > >>>
> > >>> If you google, you might be able to find ancient C# bindings to qt
> > >>> called qt# - but it has been abandoned.
> > >>>
> > >>> On a different subject, I wonder if someone would dare replace the
> glib
> > >>> and other dependencies in mono with qt.  Then create clr bindings to
> > >>> qt. With these bindings, you could re-write mono using the clr
> bindings
> > >>> to qt.  Now, that would be interesting.
> > >>>
> > >>> Please note, I am not saying anything is wrong with glib and its
> > >>> dependencies, I just think it would be neat to re-write mono using qt
> > >>> instead of glib.  This way, you could write mono in C++ and have its
> > >>> internals OOP.
> > >>>
> > >>> Changing subject again, I think its good that there are many GUIs you
> > >>> can choose to use on top of mono: qyoto/kimono, asp.net, gtk#, swf,
> > >>> etc...
> > >>>
> > >>> --- On Fri, 2/6/09, pablosantosluac at terra.es <
> pablosantosluac at terra.es>
> > >
> > > wrote:
> > >>>> From: pablosantosluac at terra.es <pablosantosluac at terra.es>
> > >>>> Subject: Re: [Mono-dev] Qt anyone?
> > >>>> To: "SE1" <ikruis at gmail.com>
> > >>>> Cc: mono-devel-list at lists.ximian.com
> > >>>> Date: Friday, February 6, 2009, 6:51 AM
> > >>>> Ok, great. The problem is exactly what you mentioned: with
> > >>>> no website
> > >>>> and no info... there's no way developers can get
> > >>>> interested on it.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> SE1 escribió:
> > >>>>> PABLOSANTOSLUAC at terra.es wrote:
> > >>>>>>   Hi there,
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>   After reading:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> http://tech.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/02/05/2138228,
> > >>>>
> > >>>>>>   and after the announce of the LGPL Qt release, I
> > >>>>
> > >>>> think it's quite clear
> > >>>>
> > >>>>>>   there's a lot to gain from a *solid* Qt
> > >>>>
> > >>>> binding for Mono.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>>>   I mean, the Qyoto doesn't look like an alive
> > >>>>
> > >>>> project anymore (not at
> > >>>>
> > >>>>>>   least a couple of weeks ago) and if I remember
> > >>>>
> > >>>> correctly it is
> > >>>>
> > >>>>>>   restricted to Linux (true cross-platform is
> > >>>>
> > >>>> needed).
> > >>>>
> > >>>>>>   And... apps! I'd be eager to port plastic
> > >>>>
> > >>>> GUI to Qt/C#, and maybe we
> > >>>>
> > >>>>>>   could start from the Qyoto stuff, but not sure
> > >>>>
> > >>>> about the status.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>>>   pablo
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> _______________________________________________
> > >>>>>> Mono-devel-list mailing list
> > >>>>>> Mono-devel-list at lists.ximian.com
> > >>>>
> > >>>> http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-devel-list
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> Someone brought the same questions up recently. If you
> > >>>>
> > >>>> read the thread at
> > >>>>
> > >>>> http://www.nabble.com/Qyoto-project-dead---ts21427284.html
> > >>>> you'll see that
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> although the Qyoto website is down, the project is
> > >>>>
> > >>>> still very much alive. It
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> also works cross-platform, just lacks the building
> > >>>>
> > >>>> support at the moment.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> Ilmar
> > >>>>
> > >>>> _______________________________________________
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> > >>>> Mono-devel-list at lists.ximian.com
> > >>>> http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-devel-list
> > >>
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