[Mono-dev] Mono.Simd - slower than the normal implementation

Alan McGovern alan.mcgovern at gmail.com
Sat Nov 15 22:30:04 EST 2008


Here's my benchmarking file anyway, it may prove useful.

Alan.

On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 2:37 AM, Alan McGovern <alan.mcgovern at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hey,
>
> On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 3:50 PM, Rodrigo Kumpera <kumpera at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi Alan,
>> -Getters and setter are a hint of ill vectorized code.
>
> In this particular scenario, I'm not sure how i can get rid of the use
> of getters/setters unless I use even more unsafe code. I don't know
> whether it's feasible or not, but it'd be great to be able to use this
> API without having to use unsafe code. At the moment, I don't think
> it's really possible to use this API without getters and setters.
>
>> The last part of your unsafe code should use temps for the intermediate results.
> Do you mean that I should copy the vector 'e', which i got from
> XOR'ing my values, into another Vector4ui using the store operation?
> Then I should do my bitshifting/storing into uint[] from that one?
>
>
>> -For the safe case we still miss proper integration with arrays, in the form
>> of methods to
>> extract and store vectors from them.
>
> I was thinking that the API could expose something like:
> Vector4ui.Create (uint[] array, int offset, ref Vector4ui result)
> which could be changed into:
> result = *((Vector4ui*)&array [offset]);
>
> Though I'm sure you have ideas already on this ;) A similar method for
> storing the result into a uint[] would be great too.
>
>>
>> Your code looks a bit strange, the Vector4ui constructor indexes in
>> particular. Have you checked that
>> the output of the 3 methods are the same?
> Yes, there is a bug in my implementation there, I left out a bracket
> when setting the value of buff[t+3]. There should be an additional
> bracket around (e.W << 1) | (e.W >> 31). Other than that, the
> implementation is correct. I've pasted the correct implementation of
> the unsafe and safe SIMD versions below. Just for reference purposes.
>
>>
>> I'll work on the Mono.Simd issues next week, getting setters to be
>> accelerated, some methods
>> to better integrate with arrays and other things like element extractors.
>
> Great stuff. Give me a shout when you've done that and I'll try to
> improve the above implementation. Though if you have time to spare
> while writing the SIMD code, you could take a look at it yourself ;)
>
> Thanks,
> Alan.
>
> Reference implementations (non buggy ;) ):
>        public static void FillBuffSafe(uint[] buff)
>        {
>            for (int t = 16; t < buff.Length; t += 4)
>            {
>                Vector4ui e = new Vector4ui(buff[t - 3], buff[t - 2],
> buff[t - 1], buff[t - 0]) ^
>                              new Vector4ui(buff[t - 8], buff[t - 7],
> buff[t - 6], buff[t - 5]) ^
>                              new Vector4ui(buff[t - 14], buff[t -
> 13], buff[t - 12], buff[t - 11]) ^
>                              new Vector4ui(buff[t - 16], buff[t -
> 15], buff[t - 14], buff[t - 13]);
>                e.W ^= buff[t];
>
>                buff[t] = (e.X << 1) | (e.X >> 31);
>                buff[t + 1] = (e.Y << 1) | (e.Y >> 31);
>                buff[t + 2] = (e.Z << 1) | (e.Z >> 31);
>                buff[t + 3] = ((e.W << 1) | (e.W >> 31)) ^ ((e.X << 2)
> | (e.X >> 30));
>            }
>        }
>
>
>        public unsafe static void FillBuffUnsafe(uint[] buffb)
>        {
>            fixed (uint* buff = buffb)
>            {
>                for (int t = 16; t < buffb.Length; t += 4)
>                {
>                    Vector4ui e = *((Vector4ui*)&buff[t - 3]) ^
>                                  *((Vector4ui*)&buff[t - 8]) ^
>                                  *((Vector4ui*)&buff[t - 14]) ^
>                                  *((Vector4ui*)&buff[t - 16]);
>                    e.W ^= buff[t];
>
>                    buff[t] = (e.X << 1) | (e.X >> 31);
>                    buff[t + 1] = (e.Y << 1) | (e.Y >> 31);
>                    buff[t + 2] = (e.Z << 1) | (e.Z >> 31);
>                    buff[t + 3] = ((e.W << 1) | (e.W >> 31)) ^ ((e.X
> << 2) | (e.X >> 30));
>                }
>            }
>        }
>
>>
>> Rodrigo
>>
>> On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 12:13 AM, Alan McGovern <alan.mcgovern at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I found a bit of code in the SHA1 implementation which i thought was
>>> ideal for SIMD optimisations. However, unless i resort to unsafe code,
>>> it's actually substantially slower! I've attached three
>>> implementations of the method here. The original, the safe SIMD and
>>> the unsafe SIMD. The runtimes are as follows:
>>>
>>> Original: 600ms
>>> Unsafe Simd: 450ms
>>> Safe Simd: 1700ms
>>>
>>> Also, the method is always called with a uint[] of length 80.
>>>
>>> Is this just the wrong place to be using simd? It seemed ideal because
>>> i need 75% less XOR's. If anyone has an ideas on whether SIMD could
>>> actually be useful for this case or not, let me know.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Alan.
>>>
>>>
>>> The original code is:
>>>
>>> private static void FillBuff(uint[] buff)
>>> {
>>>        uint val;
>>>        for (int i = 16; i < 80; i += 8)
>>>        {
>>>                val = buff[i - 3] ^ buff[i - 8] ^ buff[i - 14] ^ buff[i -
>>> 16];
>>>                buff[i] = (val << 1) | (val >> 31);
>>>
>>>                val = buff[i - 2] ^ buff[i - 7] ^ buff[i - 13] ^ buff[i -
>>> 15];
>>>                buff[i + 1] = (val << 1) | (val >> 31);
>>>
>>>                val = buff[i - 1] ^ buff[i - 6] ^ buff[i - 12] ^ buff[i -
>>> 14];
>>>                buff[i + 2] = (val << 1) | (val >> 31);
>>>
>>>                val = buff[i + 0] ^ buff[i - 5] ^ buff[i - 11] ^ buff[i -
>>> 13];
>>>                buff[i + 3] = (val << 1) | (val >> 31);
>>>
>>>                val = buff[i + 1] ^ buff[i - 4] ^ buff[i - 10] ^ buff[i -
>>> 12];
>>>                buff[i + 4] = (val << 1) | (val >> 31);
>>>
>>>                val = buff[i + 2] ^ buff[i - 3] ^ buff[i - 9] ^ buff[i -
>>> 11];
>>>                buff[i + 5] = (val << 1) | (val >> 31);
>>>
>>>                val = buff[i + 3] ^ buff[i - 2] ^ buff[i - 8] ^ buff[i -
>>> 10];
>>>                buff[i + 6] = (val << 1) | (val >> 31);
>>>
>>>                val = buff[i + 4] ^ buff[i - 1] ^ buff[i - 7] ^ buff[i -
>>> 9];
>>>                buff[i + 7] = (val << 1) | (val >> 31);
>>>        }
>>> }
>>>
>>> The unsafe SIMD code is:
>>> public unsafe static void FillBuff(uint[] buffb)
>>> {
>>>    fixed (uint* buff = buffb) {
>>>        Vector4ui e;
>>>        for (int t = 16; t < buffb.Length; t += 4)
>>>        {
>>>            e = *((Vector4ui*)&(buff [t-16])) ^
>>>                   *((Vector4ui*)&(buff [t-14])) ^
>>>                   *((Vector4ui*)&(buff [t- 8])) ^
>>>                   *((Vector4ui*)&(buff [t- 3]));
>>>            e.W ^= buff[t];
>>>
>>>            buff[t] = (e.X << 1) | (e.X >> 31);
>>>            buff[t + 1] = (e.Y << 1) | (e.Y >> 31);
>>>            buff[t + 2] = (e.Z << 1) | (e.Z >> 31);
>>>            buff[t + 3] = (e.W << 1) | (e.W >> 31) ^ ((e.X << 2) | (e.X >>
>>> 30));
>>>        }
>>>    }
>>> }
>>>
>>> The safe simd code is:
>>>        public static void FillBuff(uint[] buff)
>>>        {
>>>            Vector4ui e;
>>>            for (int t = 16; t < buff.Length; t += 4)
>>>            {
>>>                e = new Vector4ui (buff [t-16],buff [t-15],buff
>>> [t-14],buff [t-13]) ^
>>>                       new Vector4ui (buff [t-14],buff [t-13],buff
>>> [t-12],buff [t-11]) ^
>>>                       new Vector4ui (buff [t-8],  buff [t-7],  buff
>>> [t-6],  buff [t-5]) ^
>>>                       new Vector4ui (buff [t-3],  buff [t-2],  buff
>>> [t-1],  buff [t-0]);
>>>
>>>                e.W ^= buff[t];
>>>                buff[t] =        (e.X << 1) | (e.X >> 31);
>>>                buff[t + 1] = (e.Y << 1) | (e.Y >> 31);
>>>                buff[t + 2] = (e.Z << 1) | (e.Z >> 31);
>>>                buff[t + 3] = (e.W << 1) | (e.W >> 31) ^ ((e.X << 2) |
>>> (e.X >> 30));
>>>            }
>>>        }
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